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Help ASAP - Running problem
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Exige S1 + Honda S1
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Omex still have the ecu and despite me phoning about 10 times to make them hurry up and get it back to me they have called me once. they have had it almost a week now and they havent tried it on a car yet- I needed back today at the latest, looking at thursday at the earliest.
They did tell me that it was pretty corroded (doesnt surprise me) but someone has done a very bad repair on it, after speaking to stoddie, only people to touch the ecu have been GDI, dont want to point any fingers though.
Omex still have the ecu and despite me phoning about 10 times to make them hurry up and get it back to me they have called me once. they have had it almost a week now and they havent tried it on a car yet- I needed back today at the latest, looking at thursday at the earliest.
They did tell me that it was pretty corroded (doesnt surprise me) but someone has done a very bad repair on it, after speaking to stoddie, only people to touch the ecu have been GDI, dont want to point any fingers though.
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Hope it's sorted soon fella!
Hope it's sorted soon fella!
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mini-valver
As above, I doubt you'll have problems. If you do and Philthy's ECU has been messed with just make sure it's sorted properly by OMEX themselves or ensure GDI send it back to them....
That's not a dig at ANYONE before there's a hangbag fight!
That's not a dig at ANYONE before there's a hangbag fight!
GDI 227bhp ITB`d 172 cup
i`m sure there wont be cause andy`s takin mine up 2 OMEX to use there rollers cause there more accurate
Has it had a chip upgrade?
Very interested to here what the problem is when it comes back.
My car has started to play up the last few days it appears to be misfiring. I have ordered a TDC sensor as the first thing to try.
Exige S1 + Honda S1
Wouldnt think so, omex said it was a repair.
I have a coilpack if you want to try that on your car next
Exige S1 + Honda S1
possibly, but doesnt explain why i drove it 500 miles without a hiccup.
I havent washed it since I got it although I know it has been in the past and probably when I picked it up.
Weird to have to repair something inside the ECU.
If the TDC sensor doesnt work I will give you a shout, thanks.
V6 Exige, GTR R35
certainly the ecu was never opened up by me - i had no reason to, there was no problem with the car when i finally got it back (4th time lucky) - however we wont go into that again, so put your handbags away ladies.
im an engineer not an electronics specialist..... dont know the first thing about whats in an ecu.
yes the engine bay was washed regularly however the electronics were always covered with cling film and the engine was thoroughly dried and dressed before i removed it.
and like phil says he drove it 500 miles before he had any problems.
I asked Andy about this earlier and he said he'd never open up and try and repair an Omex as he doesn't know the first thing about PCB's and as Bex says, it would void the warrenty... so be careful what you insinuate
If it's corroded then this will obviously have happen over a period of time, so the time it goes from working okay to causing problems and failing could be anything, otherwise it would die at the first sign of water. I've never washed my engine bay or steam cleaned it with the ECU in, due to the fact it can f**k them up, especially as they are non sealed units...
Not being funny, but there's your problem, regularly cleaned engine bay using water could have easily been avoided by removing the ECU, which takes all of 5 seconds
The fact the ECU has water damage spells it out in a pretty obvious manner to me, how many other people have had corrosion from water problems?
Still, nice to see the usual suspects instantly point the finger and lack the basic common sense to add 2 and 2... water + engine bay = fucked ECU. Basic stuff kids.
If I were Andy I'd tell you to f**k off to be honest and not even bother helping you after some of your insinuating comments.
If it's corroded then this will obviously have happen over a period of time, so the time it goes from working okay to causing problems and failing could be anything, otherwise it would die at the first sign of water. I've never washed my engine bay or steam cleaned it with the ECU in, due to the fact it can f**k them up, especially as they are non sealed units...
Stoddie said:
Not being funny, but there's your problem, regularly cleaned engine bay using water could have easily been avoided by removing the ECU, which takes all of 5 seconds
The fact the ECU has water damage spells it out in a pretty obvious manner to me, how many other people have had corrosion from water problems?
Still, nice to see the usual suspects instantly point the finger and lack the basic common sense to add 2 and 2... water + engine bay = fucked ECU. Basic stuff kids.
If I were Andy I'd tell you to f**k off to be honest and not even bother helping you after some of your insinuating comments.
Darren S
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Just read all 10 pages of this - I really hope you get this sorted out, Phil...
If it is the OMEX unit, are you then going to get it relocated to the inside of the car?
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If it is the OMEX unit, are you then going to get it relocated to the inside of the car?
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Should it be a worry to us with a none sealed unit in the engine bay?
What guidlines do OMEX give in terms of installation. I assume the warrenty is not void if you install it in the engine bay.
I think the current owner has been advised by OMEX that the ECU has been opened and repaired.
Exige S1 + Honda S1
Just read all 10 pages of this - I really hope you get this sorted out, Phil...
If it is the OMEX unit, are you then going to get it relocated to the inside of the car?
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Darren, I think I'll have an extension loom made or seal it in something as best I can inside the engine bay.
Mark, I dont think it is doing it any good mark being exposed esp with winter coming.
Jesus, you obviously have GDI's logo tatoo'd on your chest since you defend them so often. I don't want to point any fingers at anyone, im just going on what I have been told and to quite be honest I just want it sorted ASAP.
yes it may have been water damaged by cleaning it, but then is it so wise to put a non-water tight electronic unit in the engine bay in the first place?!
not at all, obsessive cleaning to the point you have to cover that and other electrics is the problem. My mate worked at Renault for 4 years and Citroen also for 4 years as a valletor and they would only clean the engine bay out if it was extremely philthy (see what I did there?
) and even then power washing and steam cleaning was a big no no.Richard owns Omex, he's also Andy's business partner as many people know, but he's seen mine, Ludaprix's, Andy's and countless other Omex'd cars and never thought to mention is as a problem. It's simply down to user error, fact is you shouldn't clean an engine bay to the point it needs to be dried, especially not regularly and whilst leaving the ECU in. Damp cloth is all that's needed.
If it has been opened and repaired and Andy says he's not touched it for warrenty reasons (and not knowing anything about the internals to even attempt a fix) then I see no reason why he would lie. I'm not being funny, but I know more about electrics and PCB's than Andy does. He'll happily admit it's not his area, so why he'd open and try and repair one would be beyond me, it would be easier to just get Omex to replace or fix it.
Phil, maybe if people weren't so quick to point the finger for their own stupidity (not you personally as you didn't brake it) I wouldn't have to. I locked my brakes and hit a pot hole glazing the disk, I've not yet called Andy up to tell him it's his fault and he's not fit them correctly though
It's a non sealed unit, it's fine where it is when you're not pressure washing or steam cleaning it constantly. My engine bay has been cleaned once with a damp cloth and the car is used every day and has had an Omex on for over 40'000 miles, now tell me again how this is possible when it constatly rains in Manchester? If any one of you know anything about the M60 ringroad towards J18 off the M62 then, you will also know it's one of the worst roads in Britain for standing water... I go down it at least 3 times a week, but again, my Omex is fine as are 99% of other. Think how many other non water tight components there are running day to day without issue... now pressure wash the f*****s and yeah, you'll start seeing problems.
If you are going to steam or pressure wash an engine bay then it's the fault of the person stupid enough to do it, not the ECU manufacturer or installer. It takes 5 seconds to unclip it at the back and remove it completely, no one else I know has had this problem, and I know a fair few cars running Omex unsurprisingly! Strange thing is that none of them as far as I'm aware clean the engine bay constantly with the ECU in or at all. At the end of the day it boils down to common sense and I'd have thought this is pretty bloody obvious, so yeah, to me this just looks like more finger pointing when obsessive cleaning is the reason. It's a car, not a submarine
Phil, maybe if people weren't so quick to point the finger for their own stupidity (not you personally as you didn't brake it) I wouldn't have to. I locked my brakes and hit a pot hole glazing the disk, I've not yet called Andy up to tell him it's his fault and he's not fit them correctly though
It's a non sealed unit, it's fine where it is when you're not pressure washing or steam cleaning it constantly. My engine bay has been cleaned once with a damp cloth and the car is used every day and has had an Omex on for over 40'000 miles, now tell me again how this is possible when it constatly rains in Manchester? If any one of you know anything about the M60 ringroad towards J18 off the M62 then, you will also know it's one of the worst roads in Britain for standing water... I go down it at least 3 times a week, but again, my Omex is fine as are 99% of other. Think how many other non water tight components there are running day to day without issue... now pressure wash the f**kers and yeah, you'll start seeing problems.
If you are going to steam or pressure wash an engine bay then it's the fault of the person stupid enough to do it, not the ECU manufacturer or installer. It takes 5 seconds to unclip it at the back and remove it completely, no one else I know has had this problem, and I know a fair few cars running Omex unsurprisingly! Strange thing is that none of them as far as I'm aware clean the engine bay constantly with the ECU in or at all. At the end of the day it boils down to common sense and I'd have thought this is pretty bloody obvious, so yeah, to me this just looks like more finger pointing when obsessive cleaning is the reason. It's a car, not a submarine
I think he has been pretty factual so far hasnt he?
He has been told by OMEX the ECU has been opened and repaired, badly.
Stoddie denies it.
GDI are the only company that has worked on the car.
GDI also deny it.
No one has laid blame on anyone else. He just wants it fixed.
Exige S1 + Honda S1
Jesus, you can rant all you want, I just want my f**king car to work.
hence why I said im not interested in pointing fingers at anyone.
To prove im not arguing, this is from omex hardware installation instructions>
The following should be noted when constructing the loom;
· The ECU should be mounted away from sources of extreme heat (such as exhaust), and away from direct water spray.
hence why I said im not interested in pointing fingers at anyone.
To prove im not arguing, this is from omex hardware installation instructions>
The following should be noted when constructing the loom;
· The ECU should be mounted away from sources of extreme heat (such as exhaust), and away from direct water spray.
Exige S1 + Honda S1
update again>
my ecu is being put in a car to be dyno'd this evening, will find out tomo morning from omex if its the ignition drivers that are failing when they heat up.
I should have omex in my friends and family phone numbers.
They agreed that gdi wouldnt have a clue where to start with repairing the ecu and its not been done by them in the past as its a messy one. Looks like its a mystery then!
my ecu is being put in a car to be dyno'd this evening, will find out tomo morning from omex if its the ignition drivers that are failing when they heat up.
I should have omex in my friends and family phone numbers.
They agreed that gdi wouldnt have a clue where to start with repairing the ecu and its not been done by them in the past as its a messy one. Looks like its a mystery then!
What are the ignitions drivers? Something inside the ECU.
Understood dude, I can totally sympathise with your plight, but making innocuous comments regarding GDI isn't going to help you or the situation any.
The ECU has been mounted as the instructions, and as I said, find another person who has this problem that doesn't power wash the engine bay regularly and I'll attempt to eat my own head and post the video on youtube as there's no way it's getting damage from heat or water spray. Mine's been on the car for over 40'000 miles and hasn't had ANY water damage and this is on a Ph1 172 with no slam panel, by rights I should have the same problem...
Either way, I'm sure Omex will get to the bottom of it and sort it out and say the same thing I have.
ph1 clio 172,v6,r5 turbo
i had a similar problem with my 5 turbo,thats got omex and it was down to some crap leads,it kept eating the plugs.changed them for a set of 10mm magnercore and it done the trick.
being pedantic over the method used to clean it isn't really the issue. Phil's put up a problem with the Omex, you've said you wash the engine bay regularly, so I'm guessing as you had to cover things up that water played a part in this whole scenario. apologies if you didn't power wash it, but none the less, something wet was used to clean it and it's become corroded. Will be interesting to see what Omex think has caused this though
ph1 clio 172,v6,r5 turbo
its using 8.5mm magnecor leads just now which arent that old.
not sure then fella.i changed them and the plugs and it worked fine.
not sure then fella.i changed them and the plugs and it worked fine.
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