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Made by an ex leda engineer, in leda casings, with same basic set-up and range of adjustment as ledas...
But totally different and ten times better. Lol.
Highlight of this thread is the 'set-up to match your tyres comment'. So if you change to different tyres do you need new coilovers, or to have them set-up again? :clown:
But totally different and ten times better. Lol.
Highlight of this thread is the 'set-up to match your tyres comment'. So if you change to different tyres do you need new coilovers, or to have them set-up again? :clown:
Its a throw away comment he has made to someone to make them sound better then the competition. It amazes me that he cant come out and say he has a leda equivalent product for the same price using the same materials and engineers in there production. They are a well known proven product with a recognised name in the suspension industry.
Andy at GDI is not an expert in this field. He can not produce radical design twists on coilover suspension that race, rally, established manufacturers have never thought of producing. He takes people for being fools and then tells them things like he will tailor the suspension specifically for them there style of driving, car use even tyre type! Some people are so gullible.
Suspension setup has so many variables. Andy tells you he can design them to that level but doesnt recommend you get them corner weighted? I bet he is trying to bag the fitting and setup money even though he has neither the equipment or the knowledge to do it properly.
I went to Northampton Motorsport to do mine. They have a flat floor area in the workshop with a scissor lift 4 wheel laser alignment and corner weight scales and someone with years of experience doing the setup.
http://www.northamptonmotorsport.com/default.asp?id=20
Andy if you are reading this give up on the hype sell them for what they are and send your customers to get them setup properly so they get the best from them.
lift number 1 @ btm
in my opinion things like roll centre, centre of gravity, movement ratio and scrub radius are all going to have much more of an impact than just slightly changed damper or spring rates. but to set all these correctly takes serious knowhow.
i've been speaking to a place called track developments, and the things they can explain are incredible! they managed to make a customers race car lap 5 seconds quicker by changing the setup!
i've been speaking to a place called track developments, and the things they can explain are incredible! they managed to make a customers race car lap 5 seconds quicker by changing the setup!
To corner weight and setup camber they charged £200. But once its done its done unless they dont tighten the bolts properly
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For the sake of £200 when you have just forked out over a grand on coilovers.
Its like buying a 3k engine conversion and getting it mapped by a wannabe who doesnt even own a rolling road
.Exactly what I am talking about. There are people out there who have specialised for years in a specific area making them experts in that field.
There are on the other hand people out there with very little experience who are quite happy to take your money off you.
when he sees this he'll more likely be contacting his lawyer son
Jim - GDI tend to get bashed on here more than most, but then when you have a load of tin pot companies that pretend to be tuning companies trying to make a name for themselves its only natural you get these "hanger on" types that will use their name and reputation to try and build up their own profile. pathetic, but amusing at the same time, as at the end of the day they still make the fastest Clio's and have the quickest demonstrator car.
Wise man once said "dont hate the player. hate the game"
The white ITB'd mrk1 has the quickest 1/4 mile time for a clio doesnt it?
GDIs demo car has the..... oh no wait TheJesus says it the quickest thats enough for me.
The white one deffo has the quickest 1/4 mile time so far... then again GDI are yet to do a Mk1 on ITB's afaik, but respect due as that is one rapid car. I've been in the white on obviously as Mehdi who had it done in the first place is a close mate of mine, so I know how fast it is, but overall it was still slower on the roads than my Williams due to the pish suspension. Anyone that's been out in the black 182 will realise overall you'll be pushed to find a faster 2.0 NA Renault engined Clio done to a budget and still retain normal road ability.
If we're talking about fast cars full stop then I think 836whp Viper's (soon to be turbo'd too) and 500bhp 1.8T Clio turbo's will be tough to match.
Ben - it made more, but who trust's RR's these days?
lol
lift number 1 @ btm
but then when you have a load of tin pot companies that pretend to be tuning companies trying to make a name for themselves its only natural you get these "hanger on" types that will use their name and reputation to try and build up their own profile. pathetic, but amusing at the same time, as at the end of the day they still make the fastest Clio's and have the quickest demonstrator car.
Wise man once said "dont hate the player. hate the game"[/quote]
oh the irony........
Wise man once said "dont hate the player. hate the game"[/quote]
oh the irony........
I imagine TheJesus can give us a full tech spec.
Wont it be a bit scary on a wet bumpy road? I assume the track setup is going to be minimum body roll, low centre of gravity and hard springs without much travel?
It did but they were replaced. Doesnt someone on here own it now?
lift number 1 @ btm
it's deadly as it is, but that is becuse it is pretty hard, but to be honest, there is no point spending that much money to buy decent kit and then hobbling it for road use.
ah sorry, just properly read that, it's got competition dampers and springs on as it is, i'm just about to have the geometry completely set. they have a computer program to calculate the most neutral settings, so the car won't be fighting itself.
ah sorry, just properly read that, it's got competition dampers and springs on as it is, i'm just about to have the geometry completely set. they have a computer program to calculate the most neutral settings, so the car won't be fighting itself.
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Fair play.
I have never been near a track myself and having spent so much time and money on my car would be to scared of writing it off
. I have played with the damping on my car though and you can make it so hard that it starts to get out of shape on a straight bumpy road at speed as it skips over bumps . I suppose the perfect track setup is hard work for a novice with no feel of where the limit is and snappy when its on the limit? Are you a pro
and going for the optimum or are you looking for something with a bit more feel.
lift number 1 @ btm
i'm actually a chef, so no. i have spent quite a lot of time driving different tracks and so on. it's something that i enjoy. my plan with the clio is to slowly develop it until i can afford to buy a day to day car, then make it track only. the next thing i do will be a diff, and possibly a sadev box. depending on how my bank feels!
"You pay your money and make your choice"...........I think that's the saying?
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