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Thanks Ben
I didn't mean CFD work around the engine, I was specifically talking about flow from the back of the radiator. As I'm sure you are aware this needs to be looked after to ensure the radiator see's enough volume of air to reduce the coolant temp. As blanking the back of a radiator has the exact same effect on temps as blanking the front. This kind of work I can assure you does happen at all major OEM's
I didn't mean CFD work around the engine, I was specifically talking about flow from the back of the radiator. As I'm sure you are aware this needs to be looked after to ensure the radiator see's enough volume of air to reduce the coolant temp. As blanking the back of a radiator has the exact same effect on temps as blanking the front. This kind of work I can assure you does happen at all major OEM's
The rad shrouding fore and aft of the element is still stock, and apart from that I cant of seen them putting much effort into things.
Previously open blade fans were run with zero shrouding.
We're talking very basic assumptions here and I fail to see how it would interupt the stock workings of the coolant system.
Previously open blade fans were run with zero shrouding.
We're talking very basic assumptions here and I fail to see how it would interupt the stock workings of the coolant system.
172 Race Car
think about how much space there is when the fuel rail guard is taken off tho
Yeah, plus theres the thermostat housing and a flexibly mounted PAS line, which need clearance, so I can't imagine there would be an issue. Unexpected things can happen thats all, but track testing has been mentioned a few times now, so I'm sure if that has/does go without a hitch then theres no probs. Certainly packaging looks to be a tricky job!
I know a guy who works in the cooling team in powertrain at my work and those guys have about 10 engineers, half of those being aero guys who think that whats behind a radiator is almost as important as whats in front.
I know a guy who works in the cooling team in powertrain at my work and those guys have about 10 engineers, half of those being aero guys who think that whats behind a radiator is almost as important as whats in front.
Worth noting that the general design of the Clio cooling system hasn't changed since the early 90's! There is no issue regarding cooling. The fan shroud itself covers a large amount of surface area in order to duct air mass through the entire core when the fan is running. You can put what you want behind that with no issue.
The Super Cup will be out on track and racking up the 1000 test miles I want on it ASAP once the production prototype is on. That'll take me about three days and that'll rule out any cooling issues or similar. The car has a 14 Channel 500hz data logging sytem on it so trust me they'll be plenty of data to prove it!
Cheers
M
The Super Cup will be out on track and racking up the 1000 test miles I want on it ASAP once the production prototype is on. That'll take me about three days and that'll rule out any cooling issues or similar. The car has a 14 Channel 500hz data logging sytem on it so trust me they'll be plenty of data to prove it!
Cheers
M
The Boosh!
ClioSport Admin
Elise, Duster
Nice to know your not just banging it out on the market to make some fast moolah icarus!
Doing it properly first time ftw!
will look forward to the updates.
Doing it properly first time ftw!
will look forward to the updates.
500hz data logging sytem on it so trust me they'll be plenty of data to prove it!
Cheers
M
that'll come in handy for capturing those temperature transients
will you do a run with an open stat to confirm how much 'headroom' there is?
Best take it to the Gobi dessert to check the cooling then.
or fit a valve and pressurise the cooling system.
On the low volume OEM production cars I've worked on developing we always found the best way was to stick em rads first to the wall and jack the throttle to 4000RPM on a hot day. If it didn't overheat after 24hrs then it was probably fine................. the seven that went to the UAE certainly were ;-)
Realisticaly there will be no issue at all with cooling on the Clio. You need only look at the fan shroud to work out why.
Cheers
M
Realisticaly there will be no issue at all with cooling on the Clio. You need only look at the fan shroud to work out why.
Cheers
M
ClioSport 172 Cup
i want one! gains? 30bhp+?
ph2 172
hows this progressing? im a bit to excited about this!
shiftspark
ClioSport Club Member
R53 GR86
Any nearer releasing more definate info as its been a month now.
Got cash waiting for boddies!
Cheers
Got cash waiting for boddies!
Cheers
182cup & 172 racecar
Why can't everybody just wait until they have got some results instead of just asking endless questions,what about this and what about that.All will be revealed soon enough.
Daz.
ClioSport Club Member
Clio 200 RS EDC
Questions show interest - interest equals ££££!
182cup & 172 racecar
I am interested but haven't asked anything.The more time answering questions,the longer it will take to finnish.
shiftspark
ClioSport Club Member
R53 GR86
its been said before building up interest..etc may have been best left until nearer the launch..
172 phII
Fair enough, your answer makes perfect sense but I am in a situation where my budget is a very tight one and I need to plan in advance my options carefully ( price, power gains, reliability, etc... ).
Question is here and it may be answered anytime, not necessary now.
Icarus has been very informative so far and I dont see any reason why he would not answer this one.
Its a free bump anyway
ClioSport 172 Cup
I reckon at a guess between 20-30bhp from this mod with a fuel map to suit easy and a nice increase in torque.
172 Race Car
I bet less than half the people who have said they will definatley have one will actually part with the money.
Always the same on here
have to agree. A remap will be £300 to start with. So they aint going to be selling a manifold and all the wiring, filter and assosiated bits for £700 or will they?
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