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bit more than that fella!
when they finish developing it
I was speaking with chris today, and he mentioned this post so i had to have a read. This sounds identical to something which VELOS did for the x14xe/x16xe vauxhall engine. And they were making good power over standard, so if the std RS inlet is restrictive this product will work well.
Good luck with it fellas and i hope it proves all the haters/doubters wrong and also hits the market with a tasty price tag.
Good luck with it fellas and i hope it proves all the haters/doubters wrong and also hits the market with a tasty price tag.
Keith185
ClioSport Club Member
Had a Velos inlet manifold on my Corsa, huge difference to the car, mind you the C16/X16/X14XE inlet track is incredibly restrictive
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
Yet you still choose to post?
SQ5
Ktec and GDI do this as a business and most of there kit is developed by other bigger companies which sell the parts (Omex, Jenvey etc..)
AFAIK Icarus and others are sort of doing this in their spare time so its going to take a little longer.
Hardly a rediculous thread as they are keeping us as up-to-date as me need to be and as much as we can be, why say "this is going to produce amazing power" when they haven't tested it and can't promise it.
Most of this has been covered in this thread but you obviously couldn't be fucked to read it could you?
LY 182
to be honest... this says alot about how this things being made.. gives you a bit of an idea about the bloke behind the things background (ie knows his stuff)
i think this is brilliant... what if he'd come on here put a picture of an inlet up on post 1 and said there you go £1500 please..
can you imagine the replies he'd get...
at least he is giving an insight in to what actually goes in to what id call profesional engine tuning
i think this is brilliant... what if he'd come on here put a picture of an inlet up on post 1 and said there you go £1500 please..
can you imagine the replies he'd get...
at least he is giving an insight in to what actually goes in to what id call profesional engine tuning
First point - this thread was about my Clio and has morphed into a thread about the manifold kit. We purposely didn't want to release anything more than "We're doing this and it should be done about this date" but the demand/interest in it seems to be massive and as such this thread has grown and grown. There has never been an "Super-2000 Type Inlet Manifold" thread and there won't be until the production spec unit is done and we have proper data to show you. I see no point what so ever in providing guestimates and expectations as its of no use to anyone.
There has been numerous revisions to the initial design since it was first drawn up, mainly because it became clear it was possible to do a much 'better' job than initialy thought. A quick and easy box type plenum would have given good results but there is space to do more, much more, with careful engineering and packaging and this is where we are now.
It's easy to chuck something on the market which is 85% there in terms of potential..... more time consuming and more costly to get something into the high 90's. Perhaps we should have just thrown the simple one out as people would have still been over the moon with what it would have provided but thats just not the way we work. Call it the pro-motorsport effect LOL.
I can say it'll be sub £1500 including the ECU Calibration and I'm working hard to get production costs down as much as possible to get the final kit price as reasonable as is possible.
Cheers
M
There has been numerous revisions to the initial design since it was first drawn up, mainly because it became clear it was possible to do a much 'better' job than initialy thought. A quick and easy box type plenum would have given good results but there is space to do more, much more, with careful engineering and packaging and this is where we are now.
It's easy to chuck something on the market which is 85% there in terms of potential..... more time consuming and more costly to get something into the high 90's. Perhaps we should have just thrown the simple one out as people would have still been over the moon with what it would have provided but thats just not the way we work. Call it the pro-motorsport effect LOL.
I can say it'll be sub £1500 including the ECU Calibration and I'm working hard to get production costs down as much as possible to get the final kit price as reasonable as is possible.
Cheers
M
well said, will def keep an eye out for progress.
Not a poxy Renault
I simply can't understand why its taking so long to design, manufacture, test, calibrate and verify this product - its got to be getting on for at least a couple of months now matt! when I wanted my turbo fitting the bloke knocked this manifold up in a couple of days:
When you've got this sorted I'll have a saxo version please, just a bit of grinding to fit right?
When you've got this sorted I'll have a saxo version please, just a bit of grinding to fit right?
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FAO BenR,
would you offer this kit in a deal with light headwork and fitting to suit? just curious. PM me if you want mate
would you offer this kit in a deal with light headwork and fitting to suit? just curious. PM me if you want mate
Tin Can with wheels
any updates on the testing?
SQ5
Anyone else getting pissed off with the impatient people not liking the lack of updates?!
FFS, be patient, this thing will be awesome when it's done. They're doing it properly so you won't be coming back every couple months saying your not happy with it.
I've said before, these guys are solely developing this from scratch! Throttle bodies have been around for years and are developed by bigger companies, this is a couple of lads doing this mainly in there spare time!!!
I've always heard bad things about having to go back for mapping when people have throttle bodies fitted and your running Standalone Management which only certain places know how to use and Map.
Renault Management can be done using stuff like RSTuner which is user friendly and the depth of Renault Management is so far deeper than Omex!
FFS, be patient, this thing will be awesome when it's done. They're doing it properly so you won't be coming back every couple months saying your not happy with it.
I've said before, these guys are solely developing this from scratch! Throttle bodies have been around for years and are developed by bigger companies, this is a couple of lads doing this mainly in there spare time!!!
I've always heard bad things about having to go back for mapping when people have throttle bodies fitted and your running Standalone Management which only certain places know how to use and Map.
Renault Management can be done using stuff like RSTuner which is user friendly and the depth of Renault Management is so far deeper than Omex!
172 - 249bhp @ the wheels
seems like a good idea this inlet, just surprised no one has spoken to Jenvey as they already do a sealed plenum inlet. This sounds like a modified version and I'll bet uses a lot of their parts anyway. Still, it' good to see new products being developed for the Clio, seems a lot of choice now which is good for all us
Sigh!! - the main reason why none of us have stuck a thread up purely relating to this project is exactly to avoid this situation. As soon as there is data which will be useful it will be posted here that day. That's the best I can say! To cover this again I will not post speculation or guesses.
As for "this mod will make them alot of cash in the future." it'd be nice to think so wouldn't it, alas Clio's are relatively low volume and anything involving large amounts of fabrication and machining is typicaly low margin. I'm doing this because I want it on my car and development data from this will be used on a later F4R project of mine. So far I've spent several grand building a spec engine for testing etc. and I don't expect any profit to cover this!
KungFuSpaghetti - no they don't. Jenvey do a few S2000 bits incl the spec 64mm throttle body and a F4R lower intake. They also specificaly cast the lower inlet manifold section for our manifold, as one of the major people in cast aluminium components for induction systems and the only major one based in the UK it is only sensible to use their services for cast components.
Once again there will be a seperate, new thread posted as soon as results are in!
Cheers
M
As for "this mod will make them alot of cash in the future." it'd be nice to think so wouldn't it, alas Clio's are relatively low volume and anything involving large amounts of fabrication and machining is typicaly low margin. I'm doing this because I want it on my car and development data from this will be used on a later F4R project of mine. So far I've spent several grand building a spec engine for testing etc. and I don't expect any profit to cover this!
KungFuSpaghetti - no they don't. Jenvey do a few S2000 bits incl the spec 64mm throttle body and a F4R lower intake. They also specificaly cast the lower inlet manifold section for our manifold, as one of the major people in cast aluminium components for induction systems and the only major one based in the UK it is only sensible to use their services for cast components.
Once again there will be a seperate, new thread posted as soon as results are in!
Cheers
M
Maybe this thread should be locked in the mean time then? Its doing my nut in, not for the lack of updates, as i appreciate the situation, but purely for the people wanting updates, and constantly posting so.
SQ5
Lol, I know this, I wouldn't comment about something I don't know about. But most of this from what I gather is being done in their spare time.
So yes they are a couple of lads doing this in their spare time....
I think closing it is best idea too
You've got to be kidding me right? If you knew anything about either individual involved in the development of this inlet I guarantee 110% you would retract that statement!
You should rephrase it as
Then you would be on the right track
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