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3 sidewall punctures in one year... I don't like mixing tyres or putting a brand new one on vs 3 that are already worn 50% so they cost me a few £s.

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?672086-From-start-to-end-full-year-costs-of-my-200&highlight=full+year+costs

It's there in mine too, allowing for the extra 200kgs my 200 carries compared to my 172 Cup, the 5k 'kick' is just as hard and pronounced. Is one faster than the other in a straight line or round bends? Not really. Not enough that it would make any difference to your progress. The 200 does...

I'm genuinely interested in this. Also, you say no upgrading will be necessary for a long time...how long is long? 2 years? 5? 10?

F***in' excellent comeback. Anything else to add? Current 200 is more macho than its replacement as well I guess? Makes you feel good eh?!

I crawled all over a dci this afternoon, tried the rear seats out for size once I'd got comfortable up front, quite impressed with the space, certainly more than enough for the kids. Boot is noticeably bigger although not by a huge amount. Looks? They had a yellow and a white one in the...

LOL at the criticism of it being just a 'great road car'. Out of idle curiosity...how many times has yours seen a track Chris? In how many miles?

Can you have stop start with a dual-clutch? I thought it was manual only as it was the act of putting the car into neutral that told the engine to shut down.

Whilst I still do it from time to time on the road I've moved on from that. To me the act of driving, the enjoyment of driving, is so much more than just one thing. To say enjoyment can't be had unless you get the opportunity to try and nail the perfectly timed/rev-matched gear change is a bit...

Not interested in seats or brakes, but would be in 'box tweaks. These will hopefully be/should be retrospectively applicable?

When I think back to how my 205bhp/ton 172 Cup got itself down the road, and then think that performance is available quite easily, with all the toys in this 5 door body, I get pretty excited to be honest. The only argument I'm now having with myself is do I buy one now or wait 18-36 months...

Yet you continue to be hung up and vocal on the 5-door thing?

As does the Focus ST already. They must all look sh*t too.

Seriously though...apart from one line and a slightly more cumbersome impractical door, how does that look any different at all?

So how long do we reckon it will be before it's facelifted and tweaked? 18 months?

The tissues are not for crying.

I'm gonna have a box of Kleenex ready tbqfh.

If anyone's interested 'arris 'as a video up tonight apparently.

Is that not because they mostly end up in ditches?

Insurance group for 200T will be 29. Outgoing 200 is 30. Raider/Silverstone are 31.

So it just made you l? LOL

Interesting that brakes were more than adequate on track and he didn't once mention the gear change time/reaction in that Evo review.

I'd say it's an automatic 'box with manual selection if desired. Yes it will prevent a downshift which would cause it to disintegrate (exactly the same as a maximum rpm limiter stops over revving), no it won't auto up-shift if you hit the limiter. Yes there seems to be a delay between request...

I thought we'd already covered this? "RS gearbox is rubbish because you can't downshift in a way which would harm it". LOL Using this argument any car with a rev limiter is useless as you can't try to rev it to 10k and blow the engine up. Do rev limiters ruin the driving experience? Should...

FLOL, what point are you making? Is it that because there's two paddles you might need to take both hands off the wheel at the same time? Using a stick takes longer and you have to move your hand further. The stick itself will be in a different place as well depending on what gear you're in...

How is moving hands to find a paddle any different from taking a hand off to find a gear lever? Manual mode on race settings = no automatic upshift.

I can't see how column mounted is an issue. I'm used to taking my hand completely off the wheel and moving a big stick a few inches already...how hard is it to find a paddle that's always in the exact same place behind the wheel every single time I need it? If taking your hands off the wheel...

FWD/RWD

I think the comparison with the GT86 is absolutely valid. That's because I've been swaying back and forth between the two for some time now..depending on my mood...racing driver or Dad. I think the father in me will win though as the back seat usability of the '86 is almost non existent.

Odd that it's never played up before despite regular jet-washing. Useful to know it'll show up on diagnostics though...can read codes etc on my phone so could always take a look. A very helpful member on here has already sent me the Renault technical fault finding document from diologies for...