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60 mile a day! Going to and from work, Mansfield to Derby, Derby back to Mansfield!

Series 3 as in mk1 phase 3 or mk3?

So 1.8 16v would slow you down!

£280 for a service is crazy though, rally cars cost less to service lol

Well I bought my Clio from a Seat dealer and it came with a 1 year warrenty. The warrenty stated that the car had to be serviced at stated intervals, it also said that the services could be undertaken at any registered VAG (or summit like that) garage. So I took it to Lexs, got it serviced, owt...

Can I ask why you take it back to Renault? Why not take it somewhere with a decent reputation which is gonna cost you a hell of a lot less and probably get a better seeing to

Must just be dodgy timing again then, parkers got it down as 6.4

I thought the figures where 6.5 to 60. But I get what your saying about the engine, just on paper it dont really do it justice!

Personally I think the v6 looks fantastic but I think its performance is a little dissapointing. 3.0 v6, 200+bhp yet 0-60 in fractionally faster then the Cup? Dont get me wrong, it must be full of torque and so much fun but you cant help wondering!

Good point Scooby dude, you dont see many Cups, but then again I havent seen many 172s! But the Cup looks like it can shift, the 172 is a more suttle looks more like a 1.2 16v Clio. What Im gettin at is that you could annoy a lot of rep mobiles, boy racers etc thinking its a ickle Clio in the...

http://www.rtoc.org/http://www.rtoc.org/ http://www.r5-turbo.co.uk/events.asphttp://www.r5-turbo.co.uk/ The first one is one of the best.

Well its not even in the same league as a scooby, thats why its only £11500 as opposed to 20k plus for a scooby! I wouldnt think it would transfer a lot on the road, just thinking whether its really worth sacrificing luxuries for speed and handling.

Can you get em with the electric heated things as well?

What?!? Someone sum it up for me, I aint got time to be reading all that, I got work to do!

Out of interest, has anyone actually driven both the 172 and Cup for some time (not just a test drive)? I know some mag like Evo tested the Cup and 172 and the Cup was 2 seconds quicker round the track, but how much quicker is it really on the road with the average driver?

What model in particualar? I think youd be hard pushed to find a site with more figures on then parkers!

So could you just put wider rims on the 172 and improve the handling? Or am I being dumb?

172 man do you ever have any decent to say?

Then if you can claim tax back, yes you would get 17.5% back. The 172 retails at £15995 from Renault in UK, most car supermarkets do them for bewteen £11500-£12500, thats with VAT added on.

Then your forgiven! But if you live in New Zealand why would you be buying a UK car?

Umm how are you gonna claim tax back on a car? And yes, you are being stupid for not knowing that VAT is 17.5% :)

My g/f goes crazy when i do 65 in a 60 or can hear the engine make any noise, but she does laugh when I go fast round corners, shes kinda strange lol!

That is not good, but in time youll be laughing about it... much like Im laughing now! :)

Ring Renault Customer Services headoffice and kick up a fuss, should get summit

I think it was Ben off of RSC, was this the car? http://www.renaultsportsclub.co.uk/album/Clio16V/mee.jpg

Rob you sound like a american women on Jerry Springer or some other dodgy talk show. Oh thats like so 90s, tell it to hand cos the face dont wanna hear! hehe

I love seeing old knackered Fiestas with plastic XR2 kit stuck on with super glue. Saw a Saxo with LED washer jets on this morning which made me laugh.

RL badge mate, 1.2 RL!

Scribbler do you live up near the race course?

Lol @ DTWD I love the arguments that start my car would be faster then your car if your car wasnt so fast.