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Ok ok. Lets help out the kid and not clog his thread, im sure every 182 owner would think there car looks better than mind did. Case closed! -Rob

Exactly, thats why i said personally Iain.. Comparison, mine: http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1098264519__Image24.jpghttp://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1098264519__Image24.jpg 172...

The aptly named Pretender did! Its not cheap, either him or his dad worked for Renault i think which helped him get discounts. I thought about doing this when i first got my car, id say its worth waiting for bits, search for scrappies with 172s, offer stupidly low prices for stuff, some will...

Well Group N is supposed to be production cars, so different springs/dampers and exhausts/management are allowed. Doubt theyd be much more with the MG as isnt in the F1400 class? XR Scholarship or something? Anyway, still going to be better than a 1.6 Clio (have same brakes as the 1.2!) -Rob

Mitchy, only 2 seconds? Within your average trackday session that would mean the Clio would perhaps of covered half a lap more of brands than the MG. Even after 5 laps thats 10 whole seconds, thats miles away! -Rob

Ive driven the ZS and it is a fantastic machine. Undervalued IMO, it has a decent chassis and double wishbones at the back i believe? Which explains it.. The problem with peope dishing out opinions of the ZR is that the kind of people who do generally dont know what theyre talking about, it...

Maybe because hes called "Rally Matt" means he instantly becomes "driving god". Whats he drive a Group N MG ZR? Group N being a road car... -Rob

Theyre comparing a race car to a road car. The Clio Cup racer is COMPLETELY different to drive than the 172 road car, theyre being narrowminded. It would take experience to get used to the Clio Cup racers, i would suggest the guy you quoted isnt a very experienced driver of cars which give...

Yeah, guess theyd take the side ones out. You can specify full on race seats on the Mini which lose them. -Rob

I got a driveshaft replaced when my Clio was lowered 80mm, for free. You shouldnt have a problem, and if you do, make a fuss. Simple. -Rob

Black, unless youre defo going to colour code it. Id choose flame red in that case, but for some reason it doesnt look the same colour as the 172s used to get. -Rob

You could of ordered them by now!

Cant believe the dude got such a flaming from people who didnt even know the circumstances..morons! First of all, im glad youre ok, and well done for being honest, it makes a refreshing change whe you see other posts on here asking how to get away with speeding fines etc. Best wishes to your...

Can you get them for similar money then? I do like the valvers look, but theyre also quite dated, inside and out. The Pug is hardly a revolution but it is better in that respect, i guess if you got one it would be newer too and theres better tuning capability as well. I imagine being 1.6s theyd...

What a b**ch! Mention the police to her..

Should of got an NSX..i mean..very nice!! -Rob

Well when i picked up my Clio there was a little dent and the drivers door wasnt hung properly. Make sure you have a good inspection of it, as you only get a limited time to reject a car. Im sure you wont be that unlucky though, so congratulations, and enjoy the Clio! -Rob

Who would rag a Clio? Think of potential customers..why would they? You get to drive them round the block, i dont understand the bad stigma attached to ex-demos all the time.. :confused: -Rob

Do you lose economy when chipping the diesels? I do like the 3-series, but a 5 door, thats just not logical captain. -Rob

Similar thing happened to my family, 2 cars stolen at lunchtime (they waited for us to go out). We now have lockable posts which come up from the ground either side of the car, and also have a hidden safe especially for car keys. They nick cars to order, they dont care about anything else in...

Lol @ Jon and Lee, are the brakes actually any different?

A light car like the Cup should be fine on the track really. Whats this thread doing in http://forum.cliosport.net/display_forum_topics.asp?ForumID=12&PagePosition=1&ThreadPage=1 Track Days & Good Driving Roads, surely for Clio Discussion instead? -Rob [Edited by RobFenn on 11 October 2004...

Id rather buy a Cup and set it up as a 182. I think the only thing you need is the stronger hubs, right? Otherwise its just different geometry settings and slightly different suspension which i know i would change anyway. -Rob

Just fold them in, what are they for anyway? ;) -Rob

Why not go second hand? I certainly regret getting a new Renault.. -Rob

Enzo vs F1 is good! If 2 squares moving can be described as good.. -Rob

There is a 360 with a youngish owner in my area with exactly that look Coolspot.. Would prefer a red one myself! -Rob

Cant belive people are recommending the 348. Remember the V6 vs. SL Merc thread? Same scenario..get the Ferrai and youll look like a pikey. Its not a classic and never will be. The 348 is crap, the later ones were even worse. The deciding factor has to be the running costs, its all very...

Lee, toy cars are gay. I was in Urban Outfitters last weekend and noticed they were selling Animals (from the muppet show), should get one of them for your car instead! -Rob