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true, and im sure the clio197 has better plastics and features but are they put together well ? as manufacturers have been able to do it on BMW`s and Mercs etc.. for decades regardless of interior quality in terms of plastics and ergonomics. cant see how there can be a nxt generation...

i would of got one but the idea of a car weighing only 90kg (one fatty) extra and with recaros and 300nm torque vs 215nm and 222hp vs 195hp was more appealing evo wrote: "Once you’re in the groove, the 197 is an awesome proposition. If Porsche ever did a hot hatch, it would feel like this –...

so is anyone gonna do anything about these truck drivers ? will they get done for dangerous driving ?

so all these speed cameras and speed safety stuff going on and the biggest killer is gonna be euro trucks randomly swiping people off the road !!! makes me sick they should get some serious legislation seriously quick and not just some extended mirrors, should be video based inside the truck cab...

yes but remote desktop is better lol

not a reson for me as such but certainley a factor, i sold my cup to get a 225Cup megane with recaros still hardcore but with ASR,ESP,ABS 4-6 airbags, NCAP 5 star safety shell big 4pot brembo`s loads of high speed stability etc.. sold my 172MKII for something more exclusive and hardcore...

there are other clio forums and of course people who just wanna turbo there clio and not post it on the internet

hi i know there was an advert for some a while back on cliosport main page and i remember these ludicrously expensive but full specd ones http://www.gtechpro.com/ is there any other makes ? perhaps a UK one. there is only 1 Gtech on ebay and its a 1994 model looks like gold dust over here...

cant be faster than 182ps (180bhp) at 1090kg and a 193bhp (197ps) at 1220-1240 but its not slow 193bhp is 193 bhp in the end its only 4bhp less than a civic type-r and weighs the same as one too, its also got more torque than a ctr.

exaclty what i said in another thread

looks good

sound like the video clip is helping it to sound meaty with distortion, where is the multicylinder whine and burble gone ? prolly sounds better when on the move though, get some vids up m8

well m8, there is a cup in mercury grey if you like the colour, ultrablue, albiblue, black etc.. there is the leather laden climate version that can have a cup pack specified or you can save pennies and get the cup, the F1 colour is ultrablue same as avaliable on the 225cup the only difference...

again thats straight line talk

your talking straight line again, not the fact that out of tight corners the meg will probably be at a point where it can use loads of torque over the clio in that situation its faster, in a straight line its faster overall then id say its faster

exellent review

i agree, put a black cross of tape on each headlight also, dirty slightly fucked cars look cooler just like birds !

remaps ?

rover 1.8 against a fezza and porsche lol

hi mate, nice read and knowone can doubt otherwise having moved from type-r any plans for mods ? + pics m8