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Oh and the E30 sounded like fun, i see them once in a while, classic shape.

Dust - Yeah i saw an advert in the back of EVO, with their proven figures, amazing. To be fair most BM (3 series anyway) seem to sound good under acceleration, but no idea what it is like from inside the cabin. The exhaust should be getting done next month so ill get the digi cam out when...

I do everything but the paying. But yes, me, poor boy 1.2 driver. -Rob

Thanks Mark, i was going to go for a Gruppe M system but found that too loud, i have listened to a sound clip of the tubi, not as good as in the flesh but it sounded good. Ive had past experience with Hayward & Scott and think theyre a top bunch, i hear their latest 996 exhausts are very good...

lol

Thats why your not getting a 172

I havent got a cup, i have a 1.2 75bhp and it is sh*t slow, and not runny sh*t, old been there for days sh*t! Ok youve added another reason, get the slowest because your less likey to kill yourself. -Rob

There is naff all you can do with the engine, no one will touch it, besides warranty issues. It is getting the usual boyracer replacements to get the 19bhp (it has been RR @351bhp). Im not sure what you mean by the next bit, do you think ive paid for the exhaust? Ive already kerbed wheels...

Yes it doesnt seem fair when he explains that i shouldnt waste money on my car and then he whips out the card for a backbox. But then i do get to drive it once in a while so i shouldnt complain. I was skeptical and did explain that its not worth it but then again you dont need to justify...

lol you do that

Or as an optimistic point of view Its only money

simpsonsalvage

Theyre both sh*t slow, get the cheapest to insure, unless its marginal.

A lot. Not worth the money.

http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/file.php?image=1058188297__frE46-31.jpg http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/file.php?image=1058188320__gruppem_exhaust_e46_m3.jpg

Ill take your word for it

Remember compos are made to accomadate bigger than usual brakes. -Rob

Youre all forgetting S-Dee may not be able to afford insurance/running costs for a 172 which makes the buy a 172 comments utterly pointless. Theres no harm in making it look like a 172, just as long as he doesnt stick 172 badges on. I was thinking of getting the front bumper and wings but...

Mate that is so harsh! Know how you feel, my car got nicked on the day i passed my test. Hope you get the best possible outcome. -Rob

The M3 one is titanium and specially made to make the best noises possible..

Ive spoken to a bloke called Manu from ScuderiaSystems.com. Everything is bought and will get fitted in 2-3 weeks depending on when stuff gets here. Will keep you posted and i hope it will be worth the money. -Rob

Is taht the one in EVO??

Cheers Griff.. Tom they dont but looking into sports cat (or straight through), manifold and Gruppe M filter plus ECU. 370bhp yes please! -Rob

ok cheers dude, remember what BM site?

Yeah but price isnt important, its whether its as good as the price suggests. Me not paying! -Rob

I thought so, read EVO? I though David Yu mentioned them.. Its £1400 for a backbox. Titanium. Lifetime guarantee (literally, not a magnex one!) -Rob

Bit of a longshot but maybe Ben will know about this? Ive been searching a long time for an exhaust for the M3 and have found a Tubi exhaust, im sure ive heard of them before and have been told by the company that theyre the best you can get, though of course he would say that. Its expensive...

k-tec use brembo, they might be able to help. -Rob

Mines the same for both..character. -Rob

Could always send in the worst modified Clio we can find coughmynheercough