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in your dreams, and your thinking of practicality!! CSL is a 2 seater as far as i know. I think i could cope with a pagani zonda s!

lol well if an M3 aint cool mr clarkson, a fake one sure as hell aint either!

Most manufacturers will also allow you to buy warranty on one of their used cars

I dont have a 172 but a new clio extreme. The fitting of interior is really good (really blows pugs and citroens out of the water), but still there are some creaks and rattles. Generally i wouldnt worry about the mechanicals, were passed the days of unreliable engines in quantity. Just dont...

Good, and so you should. Id drive a fiat 500 if i was capable of rebuilding one after it died again and again..and again :)

Bit cheeky how they made it look like a cortina then!

Not driving tools though my man!

No..though im sure you knew i was going to say that. I dont hate them, in fact theyre pretty good, theres just better cars for the money, in my opinion.

Im 17, on road experience 7 months. Ive been racing for 5 years though, including van diemen single seaters, so id like to think i know my stuff when it comes to car control. I agree that its the other people and road conditions which are the main problem but theres no excusing the fact that...

Unfortunately i dont get the silver spoon treatment! Anyway it will be going soon :(, were not rich, my dads just made a lot of compromises to afford it, as he lives for astons, but running it as a company car means tax costs are something like 5k a month. Though hes got an M3 now which isnt...

lol..im only 17

and so you should mr martinibeanie! I would say the honda integra r has the best fwd chassis over the last couple of years but would take a 172 overall. Steve - I know understeer aint a lot of fun but you can get oversteer in an FWD just by fiddling with the tyres. If your looking at an...

yeah, wont go down well in the ghetto ;) but i saw the cup and mk2 V6 at the motorshow and that blue just makes me go all tingly, lol!

Well theres an easy answer for that. To make the car look better than it is. Still doesnt really answer the question though mate cos the confusion was that with all these add ons theyre quite close on price so why dont they get M3s in the first place?

I like the colour 2!

i nicer view than my interior dont you think?

meant braking *doh*

Cupsize, your letting your ego getting in front of the point of ABS. ABS allows you to steer whilst breaking. Thats the major point of it. Its not made to let you stop quicker. It also lets retarded drivers just step on the pedal to break, as theyre lazy and thats what they demand. It would...

cupsize - no one likes a smart ass ;) night.icon - good idea, only one way to prove it!

Most manufacturers will also allow you to buy warranty on one of their used cars

swear on your mummas life?

I dont have a 172 but a new clio extreme. The fitting of interior is really good (really blows pugs and citroens out of the water), but still there are some creaks and rattles. Generally i wouldnt worry about the mechanicals, were passed the days of unreliable engines in quantity. Just dont...

Steve whyd you say that? Are you presuming that a big power RWD is better? Ive too never driven a 200sx, but i have driven supras and the 172 is so much better i couldnt begin how to compare. Remember FWD has come along way. Power isnt everything..

Good, and so you should. Id drive a fiat 500 if i was capable of rebuilding one after it died again and again..and again :)

Bit cheeky how they made it look like a cortina then!

Id agree, the williams is the most complete hot hatch ever in driving terms (205 incl). Though times have moved on and as an overall package the 172/cup are better, easily.

Not driving tools though my man!

No..though im sure you knew i was going to say that. I dont hate them, in fact theyre pretty good, theres just better cars for the money, in my opinion.

lol no, i had to take it down as i was putting a picture up of my dads aston http://www.faceparty.com/public/297/images/inspiration_1527743.jpg

Im 17, on road experience 7 months. Ive been racing for 5 years though, including van diemen single seaters, so id like to think i know my stuff when it comes to car control. I agree that its the other people and road conditions which are the main problem but theres no excusing the fact that...