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Because shocks are just as important as springs for ride and handling. Having std shocks and lowered/hard suspension completly f**ks up the cars balance. Uprated shocks combined with new springs will completely transform your cars roadholding, where a springs would just make things stiffer..and...

Jesus. How badly do i want a 172..

for god sake dont be a pikey and get the job done properly! Im saving up for tinted supaglass so i can laugh at ne tw*ts who try to break in

I dont see the point in lowering without uprating your shocks..unless you just want to look cool.

Ok well whatever, im still a renault driver and i have no aspirations of looking or being like a BMW driver :D

ok you do drive a mk1, so forget that, thought it was a mk2!!

The wheels will be heavier, unless theyre superleggras or something, so i guess it will take longer to stop, but its not like youll realise, unless you come up against a mk1 172...

clearly youre colourblind

wipers dont really turn me on, though they look worthwile. Are they universal..and how much?

wow...they must be 50inch lol

lol ok i think it was fred who said he had wheels on an ET47..and its been said clios have a ET48. Basically you have to get the right ET, otherwise youll put stress on anything that is supporting/attached to the wheel, i.e things snap, thats why you should never get spacers also, ive seen many...

Ive seen a latest gen clio with super ls on it. I dont believe fitting ET47 improves road handling, your f**king your car up! You only notice a difference because the wheels are wider id expect. Seriously your putting a lot of stress on the components by fitting the wrong ET. Dymag wheels are...

well performance cats could be un-normal?? Maybe thats what david meant

well what if you need the proper fogs? youd have to take them out again! And i think the fogs would just melt it all wouldnt they??

yeah steve, mine!! lol

lol does look cool, a better drive than the V6 id reckon! Id change the rear spoiler though

If your going step by step id get a new imported Integra R in fast road/race spec

sorry my dads an E46 so whatever i said doesnt matter lol

oh and that formula is D ------ S x T so for distance its speed times time, in seconds. For example youd be doing 30km/h x 100 seconds so thats 30000metres..i think lol duno how to work metres to miles and mph etc tho :oops:

Your family has a nice fleet!

I didnt mean you by the way KDF lol just a person in general

You can drive faster in wet conditions as the point is abs lets you brake whilst steering, it doesnt stop you quicker/better (unless ur a crap driver)

i dont play with little knobs lol

My dad has one with the 19inch alloys. He kicks my arse but you have to rev the f**k out of them cos theres not much torque. I almost lost my backend chasing him lol. Front end grip in them is phenomenal, considering front suspension isnt that advanced. Brakes are very good and the SMG gearbox...

lol does look cool, a better drive than the V6 id reckon! Id change the rear spoiler though

How about getting side rubstrips colour coded? (mk2/3 clio extreme)

Can someone explain how the whole tyre ratio thing works? I want to know if you can get the rubber band look tyres on 16s, or do tyre manufacturers just not bother with wheels that small?

Monsterman, i bet yours just dont work like mine!! I think the dash dimmer is something i havent bothered looking for, and doubt i will! The steering rack isnt difficult to alter Rob. Can i just say marks and sparks bacon rasher crisps are the dogs nads

If your going step by step id get a new imported Integra R in fast road/race spec

sorry my dads an E46 so whatever i said doesnt matter lol