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I quite fancy changing my MK1 172s 15" F1 Cups for some 16" F1 Cups and 45 profile tyres instead of 50s. Thatll mean the speedo is only put 1% out, which is fine.

I second Flying Scotsmans comments. Ive moving in to a house with a small suspension specialist centre opposite me. I think theyll be able to fit any parts.

Flying Scotsman - thats exactly what I need for my 172. How much did it cost to sling that together?

Im going the springs / camber bolts / and 3mm spacers route myself. Cheap, cheerful and should do the trick. Would go for JJ172s package, but it involves too much travelling as Id have to go down south to have it fitted. Rhys

Nah, thats rubbish that is. Wouldnt want all that junk on my engine. ;)

Ian - as paddy says, or some lowering springs and the camber bolts for £40 from k-tech racing. Maybe some spaces (and new studs of course!) to replicate the Cups track. See JJ172s "172 handling transformed" thread on Exterior, Power... forum. Rhys

Might be worth pitching it as an ideal track day car. LHD doesnt matter then :D

Oh yeah, top tip there Telford Mike! Im going to try that out. Fed up for getting out of work to burning hot leather.

mk1 172 - early models have lightweight ally bonnet. Longer gearing that the mk2 models. Later mk1s dont have a functioning gear change light. Weigh about 1035kg mk2 172 - Loads of toys like auto wipers, xenon lights, later models have traction control. Weigh about 1110kg. Shorter gearing to...

I think the automatic locking function is only for if you accidentally click the plipper twice, locking it and unlocking it. If the car is then not opened for 30 seconds itll relock. I dont know if this arms the alarm or no. Similarly if you unlock the car but dont open it, it will lock after 30...

I know, but its a really different product to a bank loan. Finance companies really have you by the short and curlies. You arent even legally allowed to modify your car in any way under most finance agreements. Something else that is probably worth bearing in mind. Try asking your own bank for...

Id recommend a bank loan rather than finance. Its very difficult to get out of finance and its secured on the car. The finance company own the car, and if you get into difficulties, you cant sell the car as it wont clear an HPi check. A bank loan is unsecured, and you would own the car, rather...

Feckin hell, there can hardly be any more Williams about any more. :cry:

and extra 3 people in the car could mean around 225kg extra weight. If 89kg off the std weight is meant to make the Cup so much quicker, its hardly suprising that 225kg if going to make it a feck of a lot slower!

Seeing as for a short time I had both Williams and 172 MK1 at the same time (and a 172 MK2 until Nov. last year), Id say Im fairly well qualified on this one. Williams - simply stunning around corners. Never driven a car like it for handling prowess. Engine from a tractor, but I can forgive it...

£100? Renault must piss themselves laughing at us lot!

Cuppy, you can put mesh in the MK2 without even removing the standard grill. Cut a piece of mesh to size, use 2 small cable ties to fix it to the grille. Dead easy.

The mesh looks cool, but not so sure about the silver fog lamp surrounds. Colour coded in blue would probably look better.

Its the ejector seat button. Be very very careful not to press it when youre in the garage.

Get a mk1 172 (some real bargins to be had) or a Cup with aircon.

Why would they have been identical? It depends on the source of the picture that is being used over the main image. The right hand exhaust also looks squished.

lol, Girlracer, I can see the indentations! They are the bits that look photoshopped! The right hand pipe (esp. in your blow up pic) is dead wonky. Thats def. photoshopped.

If this is the picture of the supposed "180" version of the 172, then the exhausts look photoshopped to me... http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/file.php?image=1058389733__rs180_2.jpg

Ummmmm.......!

Our 172 mk1 passed its first MOT 2 weeks ago. Rhys

Im with Tesco at the moment. They still havent called me.

I always get quoted a lot more for the Willy than the 172.

Can you get the engine re-bored? 2.2 litre "172"?! You seem to either have pots of cash or an understanding bank manager, so why not!

Dont know yet Tiger. Weve got a 172 as well, so I might just pitch in to running that. Maybe Ill get a Valver. Not sure though. Insurance group 17 with only 3 years NCD and a claim will be way too high I think.