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Have you driven both? The first person that pops up and says the Cup has a crap interior probably hasn't ever sat in one. It's very similar the FF, although the steering wheel isn't as nice to hold I must admit. I'd have to have the Cup suspension though having driven both TBH. Dan

Aye, but I really want an R27 rather than a normal 197 - plaques are cool hehe ;) I spotted the one at Lloyd Mini - it's £13,995 and it's had most of the stickers removed - I like the stickers heh! I might ring them next week though and see where I can get them to go on price... Re: the vee...

Or a 2nd hand Nimbus Cup, with A/C if anyone sees one in a dealer? Renault Macclesfield had a 4k mile cup, for £11,979, with A/C, Recaros and Nimbus. But it just sold :( Dan

Lol ffs yea it is heh. I did every single combo of .com and .co.uk and everything else i could think of heh! Cheers dude :) Now, if I can just find one for sale at a reasonable price, £12.5-£13k - I'd be joyous!

Jordan's 'teg always looks the best :)

I'd be frankly amazed if a VTS kept pace with a 207 GTi let alone pwned it, a good friend of mine had one when I had my 206 XSi - so only 110bhp, and to be fair, the saxo was barely any quicker than me when we were driving to the cinema and stuff. Had me off the mark but once we were moving...

Anyone selling :) ? Also, I appear to be void of google mojo tonight, what is that 197 owners specific forum web address? Cheers guys :) Dan

Where the hell do people find these races? 207 GTis have been out about a year, and on a limb I bet they haven't sold many, and how many reps or familys in A4 TDI 2.5 (how the hell you know it's a 2.5 from the outside when most of them are de-badged is beyond me) think "OH JESUS IT'S A 172, I...

Who could honestly own a car you could look at and say "Aww, isn't that cute" ?

Hehe dude, pushing the pedal all the way down won't hurt your engine :) That's why you own a 182 :D

32mpg is WHY the Vrs kept up ;) That pedal on the right, it goes all the way to the floor you know :p

There wouldn't be a huge amount in it, if anything really. I test drove one of these when they first came out. It doesn't drive like a hot hatch at all, but it's very comfy, and the overboost on the engine gives impressive mid range for overtakes. Don't expect to be able to get past it unless...

Climate and Xenons, not standard on the 197 either :) Dan

Erm, this thread is why :)

How much is it up at? Dan

Girl ;)

Random update from me. Saw an RB one today - loved it. If that £11,750 one is still for sale when I've let go of the Vee, I'll go for it at that price. Unless Alan makes me an offer I can't refuse haha ;) Dan

Yea 21 or so is about the norm. Dan

I like it :) Dan

I wouldn't say paying over £10k for a Corsa was worse than for a Clio to be honest. Horses for courses :) Dan

I'm not convinced it is over an actual long journey, not including doing 45mph on the dual carriageway hehe! I reckon I could have go another 1mpg if I'd really babied it, but hell, I wanted to get there and back sometime today! I'd also like to point out, if anyone is now thinking "Oh that's...

Fear not, I've just flown to town 3 miles away and back, and it's down to 25 already hehe :) I once got 31mpg, and Craig (cat171) tells me he once got 35mpg! So I'll have to go some to top that... Dan

I'd also just like to add, aside from Vee meets and driving into FCS - I've never seen another Vee on the road :) Dan

And whoever signed off those ridiculous gear ratios needs shooting. You only have decent go on Vtec, and to get to Vtec you need to be doing over 60mph in 2nd gear ffs! Dan

I was, frankly, stunned. Running V-Power, reset at my house before i left, drove to St James Hosp. in Leeds, about 65/70 miles - including going through the traffic in Leeds, but mainly A-Road and dual carriageway all down the A64. Cruising at 60-65 on the A Roads (it was quite busy, a few...

To be fair, assuming Matt actually owns the 300c in his sig and isn't just on the Ollie pisstake band or something - it's a bit of a glass houses and stone situation talking about handling or underpowerd engines... Dan

To be fair about the price, I bet a brand new R8 19" rear and tyre is probably the jolly side of £1k. Dan

Just as an update here - I'm gonna test drive one of these at a dealer next week. As I'm hopefully soon in the market for a new hot hatch, and I was pretty settled on a 197 but really, I feel as though I should try the opposition. And obviously, it been my mates brand new car I couldn't really...

I don't think it will because he hasn't been paid out...? Dan

Make Iain (I assume it's Iain's?) get some exhaustage going on :D Dan