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VTRs are a laugh and if you like how they look then get one, just be quick with the opposite lock! How is a 205 going to be more to insure, surely youd get it third party fire and theft while the saxo would be fully comp? Give herts a call theyre pretty good for third party stuff. And...

Just to agree with ben-h if i had 16k to spend on a car then it would be a grale evo 2 for £10k and then keep the 6k for fixing it. If insurance matters then the 8 valve grale was about 20% cheaper to insure than my williams. But I knew if I got it Id always wish it was an evo 16v (wider...

Fair enough just quoting the article. Thought it made sense though lower limit means you need 3rd for 60 unlike a valver which does it in 2nd.

According to the CCC artical on this site the first 4 are identical to the valver but fifth is longer presumably so the lower revving williams isnt embarrased top end. So if anyone knows these. I found Renault dead helpful with geometry specs try e-mailing your local lot.

Williams 1 number 0337, 63000 miles. plus little toy one (xmas present - didnt buy it myself honnest).

My cars 89 Fiesta 957cc pop - not good. 92 metro 1.1s - if it wasnt for the brakes and slightly dodgy lift off oversteer as much fun as the williams honestly. 90 Mk 2 Golf Gti 8v - rubbish big old barge only good thing was the economy and that I didnt care if people scratched/dinged it...

Doesnt sound right when I first got the car I kept hitting the rev limiter cause of the way it pulls through the last 1000 rpm. If the exhaust is blowing you will lose maybe 2-3bhp at a guess depends how bad it is blowing. Good luck hope it doesnt cost too much but you cant go around letting...

Willy weighs 100kg more than a five, but evo printed the 5s weight wrong (surprise) in the bit in the back so loads of people get it wrong. Still they do take some pretty pictures.

My housemates 5 is fairly standard just usual exhaust, few turns on the actuator arm, induction kit etc and that is fairly even with my Williams, at the end of the day its got similar power to a valver, better torque curve but is made out of old baked bean tins and so is loads lighter. Last...

I e-mailed Renault and they faxed me the geometry specs, mainly to do with tracking cause the garage didnt do it right (took off toe-in etc). I reckon the williams suspension is the perfect comprimise for b-roads. I guess if you only race Novas round town you might get away with stiffer ;)...

i forgot if you test drive one dont forget to drop the seat right down. There are a few articles on the cliosport main page.

i forgot if you test drive one dont forget to drop the seat right down. There are a few articles on the cliosport main page.

Dunno about fiesta turbos but you need to change to third to get to 60 in the Williams which slows its time by a bit. Plus its 20.8 to 100 just to be picky. At the end of the day you can just turn up the boost on the rs and beat a williams in a straight line but that isnt what the car is...

Dunno about fiesta turbos but you need to change to third to get to 60 in the Williams which slows its time by a bit. Plus its 20.8 to 100 just to be picky. At the end of the day you can just turn up the boost on the rs and beat a williams in a straight line but that isnt what the car is...

Economy should be better as it should be easier for the exhaust gases to get out. If the length of the exhaust is not right then you get pressure waves coming back in pulses at the time the exhaust valves are open reducing the pressure difference and increasing the force on the piston to push...

On my Williams it sounds nice but is really boomy between 70-80 gets a bit better after that though but not good for economy! If you join Cliosport then Demon Tweeks will do you the 16v one for £240 delivered. Performance gains are that it doesnt rust.

When I was looking I wanted a 2 cause they fetch less money for the same car. Semmed sensible as I reckon I could live without a little plaque and Ill just take it steadier on blind bends for the lack of ABS. I ended up with a one cause it was the best nick and as cool as the plaque is I dont...

When I was looking I wanted a 2 cause they fetch less money for the same car. Semmed sensible as I reckon I could live without a little plaque and Ill just take it steadier on blind bends for the lack of ABS. I ended up with a one cause it was the best nick and as cool as the plaque is I dont...

Had something similar revs would drop to 500 and rise again and sometimes stall. Once turning right into a junction which was scary. Replaced leads, dizzy cap, rotor arm, plugs and has been good so far fingers crossed. Mine did it when warm though. Idle control valve is £94 from G,S&F so...

grales are quite heavy though about 1300-1400kg. The early 8valves had only 165 bhp as well. Then they got 185bhp and then the 16v came in at the 200 mark. The evos with the wider track had about 220bhp I think. So depends which one you were up against. I was teased by the 185bhp 8 valve as...

grales are quite heavy though about 1300-1400kg. The early 8valves had only 165 bhp as well. Then they got 185bhp and then the 16v came in at the 200 mark. The evos with the wider track had about 220bhp I think. So depends which one you were up against. I was teased by the 185bhp 8 valve as...

Gutted sounds like Im going to have to fork out.

My Williams had been stalling on idle recently. Last two days it ran sweet then today I turned it on to give a mate a lift and the battery light started to flicker. When I put the main beams on it cut out dead and wouldnt turn over no central locking etc. The battery was new on Saturday (540...

I work near the station at a place called Interfleet. Wont be in the clio for a while as it has let me down again today, probs alternator. Yesterday it was the best car in the world today it sucks. We should have a lunchtime mini meet sometime!

I work near the station at a place called Interfleet. Wont be in the clio for a while as it has let me down again today, probs alternator. Yesterday it was the best car in the world today it sucks. We should have a lunchtime mini meet sometime!

Hi Pete I work on Pride Park. Seen quite a few valvers/172s there, always too busy for fun though. Beep if you see me!

Hi Pete I work on Pride Park. Seen quite a few valvers/172s there, always too busy for fun though. Beep if you see me!

Its pretty sound that nobody has gone on a rant about this, shows what nice people we all are:). About a year ago I had a mk 2 golf gti and was going to sell it and get a 5. I asked what everyone on the evo forum thought and got pages of abuse! Golf owners were calling me a ******* for even...

Its pretty sound that nobody has gone on a rant about this, shows what nice people we all are:). About a year ago I had a mk 2 golf gti and was going to sell it and get a 5. I asked what everyone on the evo forum thought and got pages of abuse! Golf owners were calling me a ******* for even...

Basically the deal I was looking at when getting a new car this year was £278 a month for three years for a Cup and £4k at the end or £200 a month for two years for the loan for the Williams. If you add on fixing the williams it wouldnt be that far off. Plus the Williams might still be worth...