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I agree with dogmaul, not a cliocup race-car, not a group N rally car. Therfore most probable a group A car. More importantly, how much do they retail for?

The car is not a group N car as it has a sequential and is not in showroom trim (must have carpets etc. to be group N). http://www.cliosport.nu/pict/clio_spec/factory/6.jpg

Does anyone know if the group N "cup" (or 172 or whatever they call it) has the 182, 172 or cup suspension setup. It probably wont have the race-car setup as they could never get that through homologation. Also, how much do the group N rally cars go for? The cup race cars are about £17,000...

Hasnt the 182 got the same wheelbase as the cup race-cars, while the wheelbase on the "old" cup and all 172s is slightly shorter? If this is so then the entire geometry will be completely different as Tom said.

Its also got two seats!

The brakes may fit,but it wont be quick or easy. The v6 has ap racing four pot callipers I believe, probable with 330mm discs. First off the V6 has a five stud arrangement, so the disc will not fit straight on to a 172 hub. Im not sure, but if the V6 uses a two piece disc (separate mounting...

What is it with renault then - they dont know the difference between their own cars!!! I am actually really positive about the lack of the dealer warranty thing!! (my brother got screwed by renault cardiff when he needed warranty work done). It just means that I have to regularly modify my car...

Funny thing, I was unlucky enough to discover my mk 2 (2002) 172 was originally imported from Malta - therefore no extended dealer warranty. However, quite luckily I think I have a "middle of the week, just after the renault coffee break" car, as apart from an annoying rattle from the rear...

Whoopee, been meaning to get it done for ages but I finally bit the bullet and bought a set of Eibach pros (from K-tec, pure class) and got them fitted today. I have got cup wheels on a mk2 172, so the offsets are way out. I had been experiencing a lot of bump and torque steer, but the drive...

Hi quick question, Can you get details of the 172 valve lift v CA for the inlet and exhaust cams. Would also need details of the phase shift at lower rpm. (If your wondering I do research at a university and would lik to build up an engine model using the computer software I have available)...

Quick question, How is the 182 20kg lighter than a 172. Its got all the same extras (maybe more with satnav etc). The new 182 exhaust must be heavier than the one on the 172, and I know for a fact my spare wheel doesnt way 20kg.

The contis arent really directional; on one sidewall it says inside - the other outside. The tread pattern is symetrical but the tyre construction is different, not sure if the outer sidewalls are stiffer?

Has anyone tried the PIAA ones, they are apparently silicone - not sure if that makes them better or worse. They also come in a carbon-fibre effect.

I still think Id rather have the 172 for the following reasons: the 182 is obviously going to be more expensive, the 182 may have a higher insurance group, the twin exhaust dont look that good anyway, the 182 probably wont be any quicker than a 172 with IK remap and exhaust, or handle...

Did anyone else understand the same as me from the ropey translations, i.e. main differences on the new 180 (2) New inlet manifold design, throttle assembly, ecu, exhaust manifold (4 - 2 -1 as opposed to the current 4 -1 design), and new exhaust back box with twin exit. I for one am more...

On the 172 there is a xenon charging unit attatched to the back of each headlight unit (its a 5" x 3" x 1" aluminium box). Apparently from a renault parts department these cost about 350 pound each. If your considering buying these, ask the seller if these are already on the back of the...

The reason Renault only marginally lowered the Cup was purely economical. If they had lowered it any further than they did they would have had to submit a whole series of prototype Cups for crash testing, this would have cost a hell of a lot of money. The only way a manufacturer can get...

As far as I know, couild be wrong, both K-tec and bb performance tuning are testing some upgrade cams for the 172. The french company "Sommaire" includes new cams in one of their throttle body conversions. http://www.technomap.fr/general.htmhttp://www.technomap.fr/general.htm Im not entirely...

Hi, Just trying to pick peoples brains. Ive noticed that Im getting lots of light scratches on the sides of my bumpers (bits in front of the wheel arch that curve around to the front of the car). I blame it on the local road surfaces, we have very bad roads in the valleys of S. Wales. Now...

What spring kit did you use? Eibach pro? How much and where from?

I considered getting my 172 from Makro, got as far as phoning them up and enquiring. It worked out about £500 cheaper but I wouldnt have been first registered owner and the waiting list was 5 weeks, it doesnt sound too long but the garage 2 miles up the road had 172s, unregistered, sitting on...

Have a look at this: <A target=_blank href= "http://www.k-tecracing.com/catalogue.asp?category=Pre-owned&app=Clio%202http://www.k-tecracing.com/catalogue.asp?category=Pre-owned&app=Clio%202 Could be a cheap brake conversion for someone.

Not to sure about Subarus or Mitsis any more; theyve gotten like BMWs recently ---- theyre bloody everywhere. However.. A guy near me used to have a P! and was changing it for an M5. He changed his mind and bought a new STI from scoobysport. Total cost 40K due to 13k worth of mods, 380bhp...

They dominate in private rallys now though. You can get yourself a brand new custom build one for about 60k. Goodmans 2.5 V6, 12500rpm, 400 HP. Although some that are being used (like Peter Lloyds, John Indris etc) will cost well over 100k. They will even beat a modern WRC car, as the...

An early J reg 220 gti actually has the Rover m16 engine, the T series engine was fitted to some of the later ones, but only a few. The engine is a piece of crap! as it is based on the engine designed for the Austin Allegro. Im pretty sure that it only has 137bhp. The 1.8 and 1.6 litre Rover...

Dont forget that group n rallying is showroom class, the car must still have all the original suspension, engine, gearbox, standard exhaust etc. I believe that for group n rallying the car must still have the carpets in. Group A rallying is allowed more modifications, but is still more or...

The 172 has a completely different front wing and bumper set up. I know cause I have had to repair one. The 172 bumper and wing will however fit on to a standard clio, but it would involve either a bit of botching or a modification of the bumper mounting bracket, as it extends about 20mm...

Here is the reply to an enguiry I sent to LAD Thank you for your enquiry with reference to our Clio Sport 200,the engine power has been increased by a fully reworked cylinder head,larger inlet and exh ports,modified valve seats,and combustion chamber shape.this has not only increased the BHP...

If you mean the front bumper follow this simple guide (I pranged my 172 mk2 and decided to fix it all myself, as a result I can remove a front bumper in under 10 minutes) You do not have to have the car on ramps, but make sure you have placed a dustcloth under the front end of the car. First...

Ive sent e-mails to LAD asking for specific details. Im guessing from other conversions that they have done that the mods are probably exhaust, induction, minor head work and remapping. How they claim to have obtained 200+ bhp from this is unknown, will have to ask them if they have any dyno or...