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  Weeman sucks ****


Is it worth lowering my cup. I wouldnt do it for looks but purely for road holding. Also, would it cause rubbing?
 


Quote: Originally posted by dirkdiggler on 09 September 2003

Is it worth lowering my cup. I wouldnt do it for looks but purely for road holding. Also, would it cause rubbing?



Only if you get your kicks from that sort of thing! ;)
 
  Weeman sucks ****


Is it worth getting Eibachs rather than the cheaper ones? Ive had a look on the K-TEC racing site and they do both.
 


I know people who have had Eibachs and are very pleased with them.. bith looks wise and performance wise.
 
  Clio v6


I always seem to be asking the same question, but if Renault thought it would handle better, would they not have lowered it?
 


Renault did lower the 172 cups from what the 172 was (3mm I belive). However I guess Renault decided it was best to keep a reasonable ride height for the cup to stop damage to the car whilst driving over speedbumps.

Lowering the Cup should increase the handling due to the better C of G however ride quality will be worse and more care will hjave to be taken on larger speedbumps.

I cannot see it rubbing people on the forum have lowered there 1.2 by quite a lot even on 16 and even though the Dynamics are 27mm higher a 60mm drop seems to be ok.

EDD
 


I think cups are plenty firm enough!

Its very easy to go too far, I know a bloke who lowered his rover coupe.

Round the track it was mint however on the roads (or 95% of the time!) he would get dicked buy most things in the corners coz he was bouncing everywhere!

Move to Germany the roads are in much better condition, then youll reep the benefits!
 
  ICE'dberg MK2 172


After putting 17s on I found the ride was hard and twitchy.

I have now fitted the Eibachs and it has totally transformed the handling and the ride is now more smooth....even when it was standard on 16"!!!

The ride height is not altered that much...20mm or so, so you wont be slamming it!! as for scrubbing my 17s are 40 offset and dont catch at all.
 


Quote: Originally posted by edde on 09 September 2003


Renault did lower the 172 cups from what the 172 was (3mm I belive). However I guess Renault decided it was best to keep a reasonable ride height for the cup to stop damage to the car whilst driving over speedbumps.

Lowering the Cup should increase the handling due to the better C of G however ride quality will be worse and more care will hjave to be taken on larger speedbumps.

I cannot see it rubbing people on the forum have lowered there 1.2 by quite a lot even on 16 and even though the Dynamics are 27mm higher a 60mm drop seems to be ok.

EDD
Renault did not lower the CUP, castor (giving the CUP that better steering feel everybody talks about) changes resulted in the front being 3mm lower.........so they just advertised it as being lower......it was a by product.

I wouldnt really bother changing..............fine as is.
 


Quote: Originally posted by BenR on 10 September 2003


Quote: Originally posted by edde on 09 September 2003
Renault did not lower the CUP, castor (giving the CUP that better steering feel everybody talks about) changes resulted in the front being 3mm lower.........so they just advertised it as being lower......it was a by product.

I wouldnt really bother changing..............fine as is.
So that means that 172 suspensions mods ie springs would fit a Cup no problems?. I reciently saw a Cup suspensions springs set for sale trying to say that theyre fitted the Cup only so I take it there were talking rubish then?

EDD
 


The reason Renault only marginally lowered the Cup was purely economical.

If they had lowered it any further than they did they would have had to submit a whole series of prototype Cups for crash testing, this would have cost a hell of a lot of money.

The only way a manufacturer can get around this is to offer a load of dealer modifications (I believe thats how Mitsubishi can sell the FQ300 etc.)
 


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