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Cool just thinking of a 172 - quick, nice amount of standard equipment, decent re-sale value, sweet car.. Golf tdi 150 diesel - 236 lb/ft torque, easily tuneable, can get 19s on it without a problem, big boot...more sensible option i suppose.. Arrrgh! cant decide!! wot to buy??

there are so many different gtis in the golf range now tho!! i think VW are seriously underselling 0-62mph time of 8.6 seconds...

As an all rounder what would be the better car? Course they are very different propositions, but which would you choose? The out and out performance of the clio or the Huuuge massive splattering of torque in the golf? Jeff

surpose... when you put it like that it does have its own strengths... as well as mid engined unpredictibility...heheh

wont help renaults marketing much if the cup is kickin its big bros a r se!

I would and will be the mk2 172 for all the standard equipment and still hit 60 in less than 7 seconds ( if driven properly ... )

aye hopefully it will!!! fecking peasants in the shops get theirs before me !! GRRR!!

surpose... when you put it like that it does have its own strengths... as well as mid engined unpredictibility...heheh

wont help renaults marketing much if the cup is kickin its big bros a r se!

I would and will be the mk2 172 for all the standard equipment and still hit 60 in less than 7 seconds ( if driven properly ... )

aye hopefully it will!!! fecking peasants in the shops get theirs before me !! GRRR!!

grr! im a subscriber and i still havent got mine :(

grr! im a subscriber and i still havent got mine :(

aye power to weight is the saxos trump card... I reckon it was a well driven VTS - did it have rear headrests?

aye power to weight is the saxos trump card... I reckon it was a well driven VTS - did it have rear headrests?

aye VTRs fall behind me after 70 in my XSI. If there is a s/charger in there though, then 180 brake at the fly is possible. My mate has a s/c VTR converted by GMC and it does 0-100 in 15.2 seconds... watch out 172ers... :)

aye VTRs fall behind me after 70 in my XSI. If there is a s/charger in there though, then 180 brake at the fly is possible. My mate has a s/c VTR converted by GMC and it does 0-100 in 15.2 seconds... watch out 172ers... :)

tasty dimma

ROSPA may be different ... its supposed to be a higher standard to the IAM test... they both teach from the cops "Roadcraft" book... the bible apparently. Anyway, an IAM pass is supposed to be a ROSPA bronze level? Hoohaa!

yeah if you do it through the IAM it isnt expensive at all... They are a charity ya see..course if you want you can pay an instructor 20 quid a lesson and then pay for your test ( 40 quid ) if ya wanna do it that way... its not very different from normal driving though you are expected to...

SELL IT!!!! :)

i think it doesnt matter if you have points... hmmm

tasty dimma

Alright Sangy? Im doing the IAM course at the moment... Its 75 quid which includes 4 STAC lessons - Short Term Associate Course...This is basically a classroom session detailing each fortnight about different hazards, e.g Corners, roundabouts etc... the course fee includes the test as...

ROSPA may be different ... its supposed to be a higher standard to the IAM test... they both teach from the cops "Roadcraft" book... the bible apparently. Anyway, an IAM pass is supposed to be a ROSPA bronze level? Hoohaa!

yeah if you do it through the IAM it isnt expensive at all... They are a charity ya see..course if you want you can pay an instructor 20 quid a lesson and then pay for your test ( 40 quid ) if ya wanna do it that way... its not very different from normal driving though you are expected to...

SELL IT!!!! :)

i think it doesnt matter if you have points... hmmm

Alright Sangy? Im doing the IAM course at the moment... Its 75 quid which includes 4 STAC lessons - Short Term Associate Course...This is basically a classroom session detailing each fortnight about different hazards, e.g Corners, roundabouts etc... the course fee includes the test as...

Thing is though, it wont stop some pikey setting the car on fire will it? :(