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Hang on ppl, most of you are saying that your 172 really doesnt feel like a 172 every day? I know temp, altitude, road type, tyre pressure etc etc males a difference........but hang on! My dads merc NEVER feels like its on an off day, why should we put up with a fast car for 50% of the time...

Well it seems like its just me and Mike? Its wrong though, if i got a sh*t TV then i get it replaced. If I spend £12,000 I get shat on ppl........That aint good! :@

Dogmaul, my last car was a 1.8 sxi, a lot faster than 115bhp would suggest, but then Vauxhalls allways have a strong engine. Lotus Elise has 164bhp per ton, a 172 has..........156 per ton, wow a whole 8 bhp per ton more WOW! A 172 and a cup, mmmmmm BIG differance, half a second or so to 60...

Could be wongy, but then if it is down on power what can I do about it? bet Renault would just laugh at me! Had the same trouble with my Focus, the Ford guy who had a look, said "try turning the heater off"..........lol! Car manufactures really dont seem to be able to turn loads of cars out...

Well what more can I say.....not much faster, if I put another 57bhp In my Astra (remember it would still be heavier than the Clio) Im sure it would be faster. My dads E320 (218) will eat the Clio above 80, and thats a massive E class estate! but power to weight ratio is in my favor. Think...

Hang on ppl, Renault sell you a car like the 172 and what do you find, mmmm not as quick as I thought. Yeah......... then you go making loads of excuses for it (i do to!) but just think for a second: Little Clio+172bhp=fast, what should be F**KING FAST My 172 is really not much quicker than...

You will find there are plenty of ppl who think the 172bhp is a little optimitic! a clio 16v with 137bhp can keep up! I have had loads of trouble with races, I just dont belive my car has 172bhp NO WAY!

Could be a bit of axel tramp? 172bhp throught the front tyres, in first. Come on not from a standstill you wont, get her rolling a bit then bam.

Whats the verdict then? is it possible to improve it?

Has anyone evey made any real improvements to the standard 172 Mk2 air box, its just sooooooo tight for space in there I tryed some extra ducting from the front of it, but just cant get anything to sniff out some fresh air, anyone done any better? Oh unpluging the air intake pipe from the...

Well its a funny world of motors out there, all I can say is if your lucky you will get a good one. Its sounds like a good idea the more I think about it, £6000 for the Zetec-S. £2500 for throttal bodies, bits and pieces £1000 mmmmm leaves me with wolf in sheeps clothing motor, and £2000 in...

Yep there quicker than I would of thought Dust. Got me thinking to, Zetec-s with throttal bodies, and cams mmmmm could swap my Clio for that possibly? Or just save for throttal bodies on my 172, oh and wait 3 years for the warranty to run out lol.

Simon172 only the finest air in Norfolk haha ;) Yeah I went for it, with all of em, the cav was from first gear, warm engine to! I think your right about looking in the rear view mirror, I just want a car that leaves EVERYTHING for dust :devilish: The cav in question is my bros car, it does...

Hi BenR I was wondering how much more fuel the clio 172 used when you tryed the throttle bodies? I know you need more fuel to get more poke, but did she drink like a fish on a raz?

Did you see what CLK it was?

oopss, I mean supposedly slower cars :oops:

I have noticed over the last 3 months of 172 ownership, just how many cars will stay with you for longer than you think, these were at most 4 car lenghts behinde me until I hit 4th:cry: Civic 1.4 2.0 ltr 16v SRI Cavalier Zetec-S Fiesta Then you go and trounce something like a 325 ti (...

The only thing shocking is the VTR your mate bought, I would some what p***ed off if was him Or you have a very quick RT?

Yep they do look VERY nice, but 18K :cry: No way would I pay that! But im sure plenty of ppl will. Yeah, but Renault wont get much unless they go with throttle bodies. And there is NO WAY that will happen, chip is the best they can give us im guessing?

Hi SHORTY, yeah its in new condition, only thing is I have cut the air intake pipe in half. But there is loads of places selling that sort of pipe. Im in Norfolk, Not far from Norwich

I was once quoted £6000 to be a named driver on my dads policy for his Elise!

Intresting stuff BenR, but how much of the greater handling of the valver is down to its lighter weight? Never raced or thrashed a valver, but I have only ever being told good things about them, top motors.

Hi SHORTY, im selling my Viper kit for a 172 £180 +P&P

Hang on am I going mad here? Renaultsport (part of Renault?) will sell you a chip for there car, for £230, and then say it invalidates the warranty? they make the car and chip:@, so there saying its dangerous to the engine then?

Not Renault approved, I thought Renault Sport made the dam thing?

I would say its about the same as a hill power chip, but Renault approved. Thats good news :D You having it installed Steve-Hall?

Takes output up to 180, that sounds like the pug 206 GTI 180, wonder what difference there is between the two engines? Only reason i say that is cause Ben R was saying the two look very much the same? mmmmm

What else is on the way?

I had one on a Focus 2.0ltr Zetec, AWSOME sound, like you say racing car sound :devilish: Well its a big area of debate this one! lots of ppl have found power losses on rrs but then like you say, on the move it should get a good stoking of cold air. Hey if your happy with it, what more can you...

Dan G........75 Grand, oh that would be nice Well say it quietly but I kinda like CTRS to A 328 would have to be close, 18 to a ton, on the 172s arse, and like Rob said that straight six sounds SOOO good with some nice pipes.