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Thanks for the answers. As you say the search throws up a load off threads.

I've managed to renew cam belts in my previous cars, some very awkward and some easy. Is this possible on a Clio 172? Do you have to take the engine out. Any special tools or pitfalls. Before you say it I can't access FAQ's yet , probably not enough posts yet.

The rear gaps of the car looked fine, I'll look at all the Clios I can find locally and see if they have badly fitted wings. The car overall had been chavved up somewhat and had no service history, £4k. Not for me thanks.

Do all plastic front wings looked crooked/maligned. Having a test drive yesterday and looking at the front panel gaps, they just don't look right to me. Is this normal on a 2003 model 172.?

Well I won't show you any then!

Yes mate the PH1 is what I expect for my money. I'm in Thundersley, Essex.

Hi all, I'm Bernie a veteran driver compared to most of you I guess, just gone past my 58 birthday and still in mid life crisis. I've always been a petrolhead since I used to live on Silverstone cct. years ago when I was a boy and had my first track day courtesy of my dad at 9years old. My...