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Pie in the sky as mentioned. It wont be a Williams (rofle) It wont have 230 hp It will imo have a 1.6t around 200 bhp. The Clio has to fall in line with the Megane. It will be pegged back to be under the performance of it, just like the current version.

whats the reason for the new loom and ecu (or can i guess ;))

Like this fella, (best pic i have sorry) Simply put the top hats through the rear beam, and bolt them up underneath :)

The biggest difference is the quicker rack on the cupped 200's.... That's certainly a plus point. The cars are not night and day different though

Aye, ok......... Have you good experience of both? I have, and between the cupped models of both there is f**k all real world difference. Think 172 - 182. Anyway get the best you can afford. I have a 197 cup and its a cracking motor. Non of the clio's are great for sitting in traffic, but...

perfect :) like how all models are embraced together, it doesn't seem to happen much on here tbh :(

I don't agree, they are a superb machine. If you live in the sticks and have a good choice of A/B roads, for the money, nothing comes close. In its segment, other than a MCS what else can you drive to the shops one day, and then take for a good spank down a B road/ track the next?? They are so...

trollollollollol, It wasn't a deal breaker in anyway if that's what you mean....? don't give up the day job fella ;)

I went back to a cup from my first 197 and it felt about 30 years old in compared to the mk3. Depends what you want, but for me the mk3 has every box ticked in what I want.

This is about current owners selling, not buying? Most seem to be trading down for older models

people feeling the pinch its as simple as that. £200 a month, then factor petrol, tax and insurance you're looking at well over £500 a month..... The mk3 is a step up in every level over a mk2. Wonder if EP3 owners whinge about mpg? Similar pace and all that.....?

Never had a problem with a DT set up either. Infact, was going to take the 197 there tomorrow, but the fuel pump needed replacing Monday so that's blown the budget for a month lol

says it all.... Non cupped 182 has a bolt spacing of 54mm Cupped 182 has a bolt spacing of 60mm You never said rear, (they bolt up the same) Cupped shocks are part of the 'extreme pack' Best thing would be to to check with Renault or someone in the know on here with a non Cupped 182...

Well the cupped cars have a different hub bolt spacing than a standard 182 shock, so they are different in that respect.

No problem, they'd give you a diagnosis :)

should have taken it here www.birchdown.co.uk 15 mins away from you

^ this, has to be both really

flol! My mate always used to say there were no fitties in Wrexham. However i was having some dinner outside subway in the van perving the other day, and I beg to differ!

This would be the car i'd buy if i was in the market for a Cup, no question! Cant believe its not gone!

Yes i would, but I dont need AC. You seem to think you need it? Can you see this?

Keep trying, its still not working, must be an age thing. Nothing to do with AC fella, just the general attitude/undertones of some of the posts you make in various threads...

Threatened? not at all. Just an observation at most of your posts these days. A healthy debate has balanced answers, not mass trolling/goading/jumping down peoples throats if they don't agree with you?

Not at all, why am I under pressure? :S

Fishing doesn't work on me i'm afraid :(

As you're nearly pushing 40 iirc, do you not have anything better to do than to troll on here and goad 17 year olds? Do you ever sit back and not think its a bit sad? Serious question btw

I'd have used it, but its not a necessity imo

Not really?

Not really fella, I've had cars with it, doesn't fuss if its fitted or not tbh

What happens when you're at home, or do you live in the car?

What happens to your stones when you have to walk outside?