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Stop it N0ddie...you're making me want to go and get some ordered myself.

Speedometer drive. Non 172 Cups get the speedo driven from ABS sensors. As the 172 Cup has no ABS it has a different 'box casing with an output to feed the speedometer. You could fit any 'box really although if it's not a Cup one you'll need to find another way to drive the speedometer. I put...

Issues? Nothing serious I hope? Mine's been faultless for all 15,500 miles so far (touch wood).

When are the brakes being fitted N0ddie? In the interests of science (and internet pride) can I coax you into filming a speedo video of you braking once they're on?

Not really a fair comparison as the PS3 was released over a year after the 360 was so it had the benefit of further developed and refined technology.

They work. Well.

Nice! Black with those wheels is the combo I was originally looking at until I went with Ford... Looks great.

Ha ha ha...we do! I've almost given up entirely over there...they seem determined to put the car down as they all see the RS as the pinnacle of road cars...so the ST couldn't possibly measure up...it's a warm hatch, only an ST180 etc.. I'd say 5% at the most actually understand and appreciate...

How are you finding the map? I'm on 15,500 miles now on the original Bridgestone RE050s. Very impressed with them so will be going around again on another set once these give up.

Oooh, not good. I'm surprised Mountune supply brakes that necessitate a wheel change to be able to properly drive the car...I thought they'd work some magic and make them fit under standard wheels...the 200 had no issue running Brembos under its 17s.

Oh dear.

What good would that extra braking force do if you were on ice?

Thinking about this another way... Imagine the car is on sheet ice (like an ice rink). Would a 4-pot setup stop you quicker?

This is exactly what I'm going to do. 100mph to zero...and film my speedometer. Then I await someone in an ST, on standard Bridgestones, but with Mountune big-brakes, to do the same. I'm more than prepared to eat humble pie should it be necessary!

This is where my thoughts are. Chip... you've missed the point that if both setups can overwhelm the tyre's available grip at will at any speed, what good does the extra braking force available from a 4-pot setup do? As for why I asked this question...I believe the answer is both will stop in...

I'll say again...the two cars are identical. They can both trigger the ABS at will so BOTH setups have enough braking force readily available to overwhelm the grip available from tyres. Which stops faster?

OK, ignore the feel, ignore how well they last, ignore the detail. The only difference is in the number of pistons and the swept area. Both setups have the ability to trigger the ABS at will, and both cars are running the same tyres. Which stops quicker?

If the standard setup is enough to trigger the ABS, why would 4-pots slow the car faster?

I'm not talking about after several laps on a trackday. One stop, from whatever speed you want. Which hauls up quicker?

Two modern cars, identical in every way except for the brake setup. One has 4-pot calipers, bigger discs, larger swept area. The other has a standard single-piston setup. Which one stops quicker?

He's a r****d. G172 isn't. /thread

I had the 100bhp 1.0 EcoBoost on loan when my ST2 was in for its Mountune upgrade. Fantastic little car...I can only imagine how much better/quicker that tiny little engine would feel with 25% more power. Enjoy it! And as Gally says, stay away from plastering coloured stickers over the...

Nice. My nephew has one, they're great little things!

Smashed screen update... I decided against a DIY repair, and even back-street repairers wanted £150-£180 to do it. So I'm claiming on insurance...hopefully get it sorted ASAP as it's a right pain not being able to call anyone on it!

That sounds very nice. Must go well too! Don't you hit your knuckles when you select third gear?

I had a spare few hours this gloriously sunny afternoon so did this...

The lower edge of the front bumper?

I'm not hugely technical so not sure I could trust myself pulling it all apart. Considering the cost of the screen replacement I have considered just buying a brand new handset with warranty. Not sure what to do. Hmmmm.