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Universal ones will need additional pipework cut and bent to match, you will also probably need to weld on the brackets from the original backbox to mount it. Theres also the scenario where the box could be too big to fit nicely under cause later problems with scraping etc etc. I would stay...

Drove a Fronterra 2.3td the other day then scared myself half to death in my valver.

Off the shelf tailored stainless back boxs are gonna cost you over a tonne. Universal ones are cheaper but they take some work to fit that will end up working out more expensive. Try looking for mild steel ones instead, theyre normally cheaper.

Im going to Torsion Tuning tomorrow to discuss it with them. Been told in the region of £1,200 - £1,500 for the basic conversion. Then after that the skys the limit - can take them all the way to 250 bhp. Im far to limited with what I can do to my valver engine and have ripped my haird out...

Put a GTT engine in it. Im seriously thinking about it on my valver.

Well, had a brain storm, my dads getting some money soon and I might ask him for an interest free loan which would not only speed things up but also allow me to get more work done and therefore a better job. Safe 250 bhp from a 1.4 is so impressive!! Didnt think they could do any where near...

BTT Is that a 250bhp 16v engine? As much as Id like that its way to expensive and comes with alot of hidden costs and problems.

BTT Without any silly comments - any one fancy taking me for a ride if they got a Clio GTT. Going to Torsion Tuning on Friday night but heard their demo cars are out of commision.

Got a possible whole car lined up with only 86k on the clock, its totally standard as well so hopefully mechanically it will be fine. Depends if I can agree a price for the car but £1,200 for the conversion I would pay hapilly then return when I want more work done.

I just emailed them. Thought it would be a bit cheaper than £2k? Was thinking around the £1,500 mark, not gonna go for mad mods, just the conversion unless theres any work needed on the engine. Maybe better cooler and more boost if the engines healthy, then work my way up to an up-rated...

Daz - I just noticed u amended my title - nice one!

Any one have a number or email address for torsion tuning? Are they in Whitham? Thats not too far from me.

Spoken to Diamond Geezer before, he said hed meet me in Southend sometime and take me for a spin. Hopefully hell see this and remember! I fluffed the title up - should have said Clio GTT!!

Im very interested to see what the Clios like with the GTT unit in. If any body is near Grays Essex I would love to meet up and see what it goes like. Let me know if any ones available please! [Edited by Daz on 12 May 2004 at 11:25am - Editted Title.]

Brun, could you possibly PM me with all the stuff you had done to yours and roughly what it cost and what you think of it all. My mates got a GTT doing nothing and if I can get it cheap enough I may consider the conversion myself. Im fed up with N/A restrictions! I would only consider Andy...

Depends what you want, people are forgetting that there are still sensible drivers out there that just want a car that turns heads, they might not want to drive at ridiculous speeds all the time. Of all the normal cars out there nothing will turn a head like a V6 Mk1 or Mk2 I have seen it...

Would you lose power steering if you had a GTT conversion on a Valver?

Just get some carbon look film!

5k a year at a push for me. If I had a brand new car it would take me over a year to fully run it in.

I like the look of the original strip though!

Also what other cars would come in to that price range that wouldnt be overly extravegent to insure? Id like a scooby or a saphire cossie but the insurance is outrageous! Ill be 23 soon with 2yncb.

Think the MK2 looks nicer but out of my price range. Could only go to say £6k at a push as would have to borrow the difference from what mine could sell for. Thats all dependent on how much of a pay rise I get (knowing this place Ill get a pay cut)

deepends what alloys mate - the valvers are 185/55/15. My old RT ones were 165/65/13 I believe. Speed rating would depend on what car you have - some barely do 100mph which is a slowish rating and some do 130mph + which is different. I believe the rating is marked with a single letter but...

/\ bummer to the sounds! No ones mentioned the actual differences between phase 1s and phase 2s? Is it mechanically the same? Is the interior any different? I wouldnt mind some more pics (phase 1s) if any ones bored, espcially in colours other than silver as I dont see many. George -...

Have to wait and see what I get on terms of payrise and then take one for a test drive I think. Seen a few MK1s going for £5 - £5.5k which is alot of car for the money. Reckon I could get £2k plus for mine, if I sold it with the ICE then perhaps alot more. Which brings me to another...

Am I right in thinking the backbox is disquised behind the bumper on the 172s? Do aftermarket pipes require modification of the bumper to get the visable? Any one got anything bad to say about them. George - as much as I hate silver I know what you mean - it does suit the car. I also hate...

When you say it lacks the fun of the valver/willy is that just because the 172 has become more refined or because its not as good at being chucked around? Thats the most fun I get from mine, the fact that last week I flew past an M3 at silly speeds on a round-about that he could only dream of...

I know a fair old bit about MK1 Clios but I know bugger all about MK 2s! What are the 172s like in terms of performance, how do the phase 1 and phase 2s differ? What are the comfort levels like - what sort of standard equipment do they come with? I have never even been in one or found one to...

It doesnt leak any water though, the level never goes down and theres never any residue on the ground. Reckon ill have to try and get his thermostat out and see if it works. The fan is always on after use but cant tell really when your driving if its on.

My mates got my old RT and it seems to get VERY hot very quick, the guage is litterally pointing north and with the summer coming up it cant be a good thing. Hes just had it all serviced, oil changed, coolant flushed etc etc but its still doing it. What do the mechanics on here reckon - I...