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Thanks to everyone for the advice.......Ill spend a week ragging the nuts off it and see if it loosens up somewhat. I was quite happy yesterday - my mate who has a Rover 220 Turbo Coupe went in it for the first time since its been run in. Obviously I did cane it for him and he said that when...

I think there is a slight difference between the Mk 1 and Mk 2 172 in weight, but not as much as 70kg. That would make the Mk1 the same as a Cup almost and it isnt (Cup is only 89kg less than the Mk2). Some of the things you list there arent tangible. Headlight washers are little bits of...

I find BP Super unleaded 97 RON to make my 172 the most responsive. Optimax just seems to make it feel sluggish and tight. Its very strange considering its a higher octane rating but Ive experimented with different fuels and the only thing in common is that it goes though a slow phase when...

@Jonto Hi, yes I was on Puntosports. I remember you/the name anyway. I was on it when it was in the Yahoo group. Had Midnight Blue GT2. Scooby now eh? Very nice. Punto mods were just the usual filter and DV30 - nothing like James Hans did! Mike - I think I will shell out for a RR, or join up...

I think that will be down to the traction control on the 172 vs no traction control of any sort on the Cup. I have never wheelspun my 172 and has done some pretty sharp pull aways. Although Im sure I could with a clutch dump! Like someone said, its all personal preference. I severely doubt the...

I wasnt trying to get into an argument. I did say that I dont doubt the Cup *is* quicker, but even 2.7 seconds is not much and I think most of the difference will come down to handling ability. It simply isnt massively more performance. I doubt one could even come close to losing a normal 172...

Yes they do, but only if atmospheric type. You can get recirculating ones (that feed the air back into the system) which are as good as silent. Yes they have a valid function. That being to release excess pressure in the turbo after throttle release. This does 2 main things: Firstly it can...

That would probably make me cry if its that much faster!! :(

Mine must be a duff - it aint quick. I would never leave a car like a 106 GTI behind. I can say categorically having driven both, that a Punto GT could keep up with my 172 Oh and it gets even slower on 98 RON. I find 97 is the best. Optimax makes it feel slowest!

Seeing as they have an identical engine, the difference could not possibly be that vast. Ive no doubt that the Cup IS quicker and a more focussed performance car, but it simply cannot be massively quicker. If you are looking for something considerably quicker than a 106 GTI, I wouldnt get a...

I still have the Cup brochure here from when I was debating whether to get one vs the normal 172. Here are the differences listed by Renault. They dont seem to mention some things - loss of leather/alcantara for example. Profile 3mm lower Front bumper with additional lower section Enlarged...

Autoexpress road tested the Focus RS and only got a 0-60 of 6.4 which wouldnt put it a million miles away from a Cup. It came first in the test and closely followed by the CTR. So if you think the Cup is a good match for the CTR performance wise, then it would also be a good match for a Focus...

I dont know, but Id be inclined to agree. Nevermind about 106 GTIs and VTSs, my 172 has trouble with lesser cars. Im really starting to wonder if its a Clio 72 instead. I wont even embarrass myself by telling you all what I struggled to get past today.:confused:

Great topic! This is the basis of many conversations people have with me. Im obsessive about where Ill put my car. People really cannot believe the lengths I go to to protect my car from parking dents. While the rat race are rushing to get one of the special close by spaces at the front of...

Glad you agree GR! I do like red as a colour on cars, and yes red is supposed to be faster, but the 172 red is just verging on maroony red too much for me - cant put my finger on it. Plus when I was phoning around to buy mine, it was the black and blue that were hardest to get hold of...

Amazing how opinions can differ! Id say that the red is awful (I only like racing red and the 172 red just looks wrong to me), and silver is a bit of a boring colour and run of the mill but has grown on me a bit. The only 2 I considered was the black and the blue. I went for the black in the...

Thanks everyone......looks like it is then! I thought I had a few problems Gaz! - your list is pretty impressive! So far mine is: Glovebox doesnt appear mounted properly and rattles around Passenger seat headrest doesnt sit in flush and rattles around This 1K exhaust rattle Knocking...

Ive heard you all talk about the 4k rattle on numerous occasions, and I think its made me listen out too hard for it! Mine is on 1k, and it sounds like a pig at idle (hot). If you tap the accelerator and let it rev and derev back to idle, the exhaust makes a rattley/tinney sound as the revs...

Having the climate control on and having the a/c on are two completely different things though - although often linked. The climate control will turn the a/c on if required - i.e. if you set a low temperature target that it needs to meet, or you hit the demist button. But if you punch 26C in...

Believe its every 12k or 2 years for 172s - whichever comes first. And I think its every 18k or 2 years for everything else (except the V6 I imagine!)

Honestly? Disappointed! Although I concede that Im in the minority. The only great thing about my car is the handling and looks. Straight line performance, electrics and build quality leave a LOT to be desired. Its only 2 months old and it rattles from every bit of plastic going - it sounds...

Hey - dont sl*g off Punto drivers. Ever occur to you that some people who use these forums may have previously been Punto drivers?? I had a Punto GT before my 172, and god would l love it back - best car I ever owned (apart from the handling :) )

Can anyone shed some light on exactly what is wrong with wicked wheels? I was about to book them to touch up the damage that happened in transit to my front passenger alloy. Its only very very mild scuffing thats gone into the lacquer, but enough to make me want it fixed at the dealers cost. I...

Hi I agree! That link isnt working ATM, but I posted a similar post about a week ago. Auto Express tested the Focus RS, Astra Turbo, CTR and Golf R32. I reckoned that the Cup or 172 should have been in there - would definitely have been a formidable competitor. I think it was because it has...

I think anyone will give you a quote........depends on the car!! Best prices tend to come from Tesco (as already mentioned), http://www.elephant.co.ukwww.elephant.co.uk and Egg http://new.egg.com/visitor/0,,3_22011--View_419,00.html">http://new.egg.com/visitor/0,,3_22011--View_419,00.html...

I think anyone will give you a quote........depends on the car!! Best prices tend to come from Tesco (as already mentioned), http://www.elephant.co.ukwww.elephant.co.uk and Egg http://new.egg.com/visitor/0,,3_22011--View_419,00.html">http://new.egg.com/visitor/0,,3_22011--View_419,00.html...

You are both making perfect sense! - damn! Would be interesting to see where it would be ranked if it was included in that test though.

Thats what I want to know! I get Auto Express on subscription and have only just had time to read this weeks one. They have a road test: Golf R32 vs Rivals. Comprises: Golf R32 (funnily enough) Focus RS, Astra GSi Turbo, and Civic Type R. Now......I know all of these are 200bhp+ and the...

You are both making perfect sense! - damn! Would be interesting to see where it would be ranked if it was included in that test though.

Thats what I want to know! I get Auto Express on subscription and have only just had time to read this weeks one. They have a road test: Golf R32 vs Rivals. Comprises: Golf R32 (funnily enough) Focus RS, Astra GSi Turbo, and Civic Type R. Now......I know all of these are 200bhp+ and the...