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The youngest 172 Cup will be at least 8 years old now, finding an immaculate one will be a long & hard slog around the country. Start by looking at the CS classified. Good luck on your quest. PS. Don't rely on a dealer when they say their Clio is a Cup, some ads are wrong. To define a Cup...

Mine was a bit slack on the plenum chamber end and fell of now and again, now permanentley fixed with a small jubilee clip.

I just look at the crumpet walking around.

For your money you want a PH1 172, or a PH2 172 Cup. To define a Cup have a look at the smaller of the two stickers in the drivers door shut, the 3 letters you are looking for are SPL which means Sport Light. There ar plenty up for sale around £2k. but will need some work, usually brakes...

I would go with worn out rings, I'm afraid it is a major job, cylinder head and sump off jobby. Your car has suffered major abuse in it's past, lack off oil, long intervals between oil changes etc.

Using jubilee clips for aftermarket hoses is the the only way round this problem.

If you have any bodywork dings and dents they will show up even more.

I have no idea what shade of blue but it does look nice on a carpet of Dandelions.

I don't think Paul6 is interested at all in a bit of diy, probably because of the nice weather. Yeh, take it to the garage mate.

The PAS pump should make different noises when the steering wheel is changed, depends how loud of course. If you have the front jacked up it may be worse, then there is the possibility of your top mount bearings grinding.

Or a Mid Life Crisis.

Could be a problem MOT time.

I've met plenty of 50 plusers that are in to motorsport and trackdays, including myself. It does help having more disposable income and cheap insurance I guess. I have no time for youngsters who think they are Macho drivers, hang around Mc.D's, can't see out their windows due to over tinting...

It just goes to show, don't buy the 1st. one you see and be patient. I aso think it's a nice colour, the dark colours polish up well, Enjoy your car.

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6 bolts to undo, But if you take it out how you going to close the bonnet?

Suzuki or Renault? What ever car you have it will be the aux belt a bit slack and slipping, It's not the expensive one.

It's down to the driver. As for the high insurance, a newly passed driver with a 172 engine and maybe a dodgy postcode, yes insurance will be high, also worth a mention that insurance costs have gone up about 30% this year. Mines going up £30 this May, bugger!

If it's your dedicated track car then yes but don't expect to get much for it when the time comes to selling it.

No 2002 Cup is worth more than £3k. Don't let the dealer change the cambelt they'll probably not know how they should be done, if they do it all, take it to a Renault specilist mentioned in the Traders forum, I don't think any off them would charge more than £300 for both belts. At...

Why do you take the bumper off? Not necessary. As for the OP , Both the 106 and Clio are French so he should know the drawbacks in owning either.

Method 1. Offer silly price first, if the dealer doesn't like it, offer a bit more and if he still won't accept the offer, say there are plenty of 182's for sale and tell him you can't make up your mind as there is another near your home and it is cheaper. Leave your phone no. with him in case...

And mine had a leaking bearing seal, so that was changed 2 weeks ago.

I wouldn't worry about weight differences Jamie. As you are only using it on the road pick the wheels you like the look of, you are not going to notice any difference in speed. As said before 15 or 16 inch tyre prices are quite different, so depends onyour budget. For 15" wheels you need...

Use a litre for all four. Drain the old fluid until the new comes through then a little more to be sure, about 1/4 litre a corner is plenty.

That was not me, yes there was a Dark blue Ph1, went past me easiiy, bit of tuning required me thinks. Fabias going round corners, yes they are heavy at the front, costs a lot of dosh to correct that, more than my Cup is worth.

For looks go for the Turinis or TD 1.2's. For speed or if you track the car then some lightweight 15's with trackday tyres. Colour? whatever you like.

Welcome to Cliosport, I'm in Thundersley in a Blue 172 Cup. Don't go to Mc. D's type events but some do at Lakeside and Sarfend sea front.

Probably me, did 4 sessions. It's totally standard apart from the Eibach springs. Was with me Skoda mates and got totally trounced by a couple off tuned Fabias of over 245bhp. and one with 275bhp. and shed loads of torque.

172Cup or Phase 1 172, preferrably wthout a/c as you will be dumping that. The 2.0L major engine parts are usually trouble free, only real abuse will upset it. The bits around it are the ones normally needing attention. As you are obviously confident around engines you won't have much trouble...