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conservative or not, the comparison between the Mk1 and the Cup are completely wrong - there is no doubt on this earth that the Cup is quicker (asuming the driver can drive of course) the evidence of this can be seen every day between the Sunflower and the Cup !!

this is completely off topic and has nothing to do with the new 182 - I will therefore be deleting it!

ordinary 172 is also with a 6 disc multi changer - so differences as far as I know is only wheels, paint, leather, "exclusive" number.

oh, small short shift - ah, yes, then I see what you mean !!!

hmmmm - I dont think so !!!! :cool:

are you blind or wot???????? :devilish:

over 2 half years, 3 years in March 2004 - still love it, still brings a smile to my face when I drive it, will be sad when the time comes to sell it.

you poor pawper you !!! :(

no, no vetos, you are just all on your way out !!!! :o

wait till you see it Dash!

Is black the new brown, or brown the new black then??

Dash - yellow you can order, for an extra £1100 I think it is!! Depends whether you like the yellow though !! :cry:

hmmmmm !!!

yeah, completely depends on what you want, they are not really to be compared are they! one is an old car now, one is a relatively new car, they look completely different - totaly depends on what you want

however, ,if intrested in having isnt right either!!

,if intrested in having I dont think the spelling is INTERESTING bubbles - I dont think it would make sense if you put if interesting in having!!! :confused:

I think you will find that the Mk1 does do it - at least mine does! Its a nastly little beast when it is stone cold, but as soon as the temp needles moves to the first bar it is up and running !!!!

no, the paint code is on the inside of the door pillar, not under the bonnet

our 03 diesel is Pearl Black I think?!?!?

trolley jacks never do any harm when they change tyres/wheels???!!!

yep, to pay for yer membership of course!!!! :D

of course you are welcome - the club is for ALL clios - so get yer money out and pay yer dues!!!

lol !!! I agree on all of those comments!!!

yeah, we have it on the Cup - quick, and does save a bit of time - it was supplied and fitted by k-tec.

well I have had mine for nearly 3 years now, so done 2 winters - absolute rubbish that it is dangerous in the winter!! lack of grip??? dunno how you drive, but .... :D its the weather and the conditions and the drivers that are dangerous in the winter - there is nothing wrong with my 172 in...

not sure of the technical explanation -but I put that Shell oil in that comes in the silver/grey tub !!! and its bloody expensive!!

no, they may not, but they also dont get to drive and own a V6 do they !!! :D

ah, then I might get that sorted - cheers

hmmm - maybe its a female one !!! :o