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Stealths are ok... but I couldn't help thinking the first time I heard one how strange it was to hear an exhaust but not be able to see it. People will think your exhaust has a hole in it. lol. I'm looking to get rid of my ProSpeed.

Not in terms of the fact it's a section of stainless pipe But worthwhile in terms of bhp/£.

Nicest looking of the lot (exterior!) in standard form HAS to be the 172 Cup.

I wasn't getting personal.... I was only teasing about Nick. I've had a few bits done by him and he's one of the most knowledgable guys around when it comes to Renaults. just wanted to see if I could touch an nerve ;)

No. they all do it mate. Deffo. When you own a French car you have to think of these things as part of the cars character, rather than a fault lol.

if he could actually take a decent picture you might get a better look at it, but here's a taster

I concur. Although the mods Ali (and I!) have done exterior wise are considered a bit of a faux pas on CS these days (Cup Turinis, Cup Splitter, Cup Spoiler) you'll be hard pressed to find a nicer looking Ph2 than Ali's. Apart from the colour obviously ;)

Yeah. The ECU runs the car as lean as possible when cold to comply with emissions. If you get a remap, GrpN etc is doesn't happen.

Like I said. It's all relative. I paid £300 for mine and at that time I was in a fortunate enough position whereby £300 was f**k all to me. And £300 isn't much more than you paid for your hillpower, which is made out of some heat shielding and sticky back plastic by a bloke in a shed. Who's...

Agreed. Certainly mine does when 'in gear' - The throttle response is pin sharp imho....... but I feel I have to labour the blip of the throttle a little more when heel and toeing. If I very quickly and lightly tap my pedal nothing happens. lol. Having said that, mine seems to improved...

Whatever. It's the best i can do. lol. If you've got £400 buy one. If you haven't don't. Simple. I've got one, I'm happy with it and couldn't give a s**t if people think it's good value or not. I got one on the back of some advice of a very well respected tuner, not some DIY hero. lol.

http://www.itgairfilters.com/clients.asp?section=clientlist ;)

Yes Cylindrical. I would say it's bigger than the Ph1 airbox, but that's by sight. I've never actually measured. lol.

Blah blah blah ;)

lol. High Five!

Well Xbox live currently knocks Sony's offering into a cocked hat... so it stands to reason that they may try and emulate it.

All things being equal (all cars putting out claimed power etc) the 182 will be a bit quicker at higher speeds. But it really isn't much. Where the major differences are is specification, build (yes there are things worse than Clios and Saxos are definitely one of them!!) and safety...

I reckon the Clio will be a ball hair quicker, but it's going to be very little. The Ph1 gearbox might be your undoing against the tightly stacked 6 speed in the Rallye. And for the record, how much nicer does the Rallye look? Similar aged cars. yet the Rallye looks far more modern. Lovely.

I understand this is a bit pedantic, but unless you're from Essex, New England, CT it's 'Tyre'. Cheers.

http://www.itgairfilters.com/downloads/clio172.pdf Before and after. On the SAME ENGINE. If you knowanything about these car's you'll be aware that no two make the same power. So you proof is pretty ropey to say the least. Although I'm sure you ghetto airbox is far better. just because...

LOL I suppose this is 30-50 in third or something rediculous? Typical diesel owner! :rolleyes:

Re: My GF's 172 is slow as f**k :( Mate. His missus wasn't driving. :rolleyes:

Re: My GF's 172 is slow as f**k :( Dude. Listen to me. If you want get all anal about what a car should be putting out, the Ph2 Clio 172 weighs ~ 1110kg and is 172 PS. 172 PS is approx 170 BHP. This gives it a pwr/weight ration of 156.6 BHP/Tonne. And that is if the 172 is kicking out...

Never liked black wheels. ;)

Deffo. Give me 11kv any day. Gentlemans elctricity. lol. What you going to be driving that needs 30A?

Top man. Always wondered why I had such bad sync issues with nero. :approve:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LPlWdUVzGU You can see the nose flick left then right as he loosens the rear. Galli = Legend.

You're full of 5hit. Your rears would be nice and scrubbed if you'd been really trying ;)

All the liquid one needs is some decent wheels and you're done. Seriously not a fan of black wheels. Looking nice and clean otherwise though.