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..the autoleads cable does only stalk (At least the one I had did), I think the cable you need is the connects2 cable (http://www.connects2.co.ukwww.connects2.co.uk) - the connects2 box does both stalk and display and should be a darn sight less hassle to install. Adrian

..comment: Proof read & spell check! ;P I quote: "I have BIG BIG planes for this car! and u can whiteness them all here first hand. " Adrian

Are there any cliosport "stickers" that are "internal reapplyable vinyl type stickers" (like tax holders)? If not, are there any plans to do so? I cant think of a better way to explain that?! Adrian

glad Im not the only one who noticed the high treble with them.... I havent got a sub.....I dont particularly want one. Oh well, I guess Ill have to have a trip to some shops to see what I can find out.... Thanks. Adrian

see above ;P ..mainly rock/metal, korn, soad, incubus, pearl jam etc.... ..its quite hard to get an idea of what stuff will sound like in the car, no shops have my head unit, they dont tend to have profile 4s plugged in to listen to different speakers...then if I choose theyll probably sound...

ive already got the amp! Ive had it running for over a year...its just my speakers that I dont like....and the fact that im changing car! I agree, genesis amps rule! ...Id prefer components as well that drop straight into the 172, the infinitys didnt.... Crikey, you spent 800 quid on...

Firstly apologies for anything that doesnt make sense here, Ive been drinking... ...I currently have a 1.2 clio which up until about 3 weeks ago had a empeg installed in it, I removed it because in less than a months time I should get my 172.... It came as quite a shock after removing the...

...it gets better, take a look at the "tacho"... someone was very bored. Adrian

agreed, its a joke. I especially like the cut up piece of wooden pallett (sp?) as the spoiler... ..I esp. like the: I am sure that it puts down at least "60" Wheel horsepower, if not "62". Youve got to love americans! Adrian

wohoo...mine will have it too (it bloody should do as I ordered mine after you!) Thanks for the update pete! (And octobers not too far away now!) Adrian

From what I read in the message jeremy townsend (He seems very knowledgable on renault) posted on here (this is what I made of what he said...) it was the cars destinned for the UK that would have cruise fitted, these cars themselves are slightly more specced than their european counterparts...

...phone them up, tell them what car youve got and what stereo and they should be able to tell you... From what Ive read both the display and controls should work as well with the connects2 adaptor. Adrian

Only the controls work. Adrian

http://www.connects2.co.ukwww.connects2.co.uk not sure on price, but I think theyre about £60 from what I can remember. The autoleads one does work, I think its a lot more effort to fit it than the connects2 adaptor. The connects2 adaptor is also fairly large (can someone confirm...

...I had an autoleads adaptor for my 1999 Clio... To fit it you had to: pull the seals away from the doors by the a frames remove the a frames remove the 2 screws in the dash by the doors, remove the 3 screws in the top of the dash by the window, remove the 2 screws holding on the cover...

From what I can gather (Theres been a bit of talk on here recently about this subject) all UK ones being manufactured now will have cruise fitted.... So if you order from a dealer and the car is ordered from the factory it should have cruise fitted.... Adrian

Im guessing that your car is an import from europe somewhere then, rather than a car direct from the factory....if so its more than possible that its stuck in customs somewhere.... Adrian

I ordered mine at the beginning of august and was given a delivery date of mid october....Not sure why you would get a delivery date 6 weeks earlier than anybody else placing a new order?. Adrian

..tinitus? ;)

...my order would have gone to renault on the 4th of August.... I know exactly how you feel lagerlout1! The wait it killing me, especially if it may actually be longer! Although is it possible that new car discount arent actually giving customers dates from Renault? I know my order went off...

..hehe.. Ill let you know if I hear anything from my dealer ;) Adrian

..ok, hopefully mine will be ready by mid october then... maybe they already accounted for the delay when I got my delivery date (hopefully!). Adrian

..oh no.. what date were you supposed to get it? Renault told my dealer that mine would be delivered on the 14th of October...but if yours is delayed then id imagine that mine (a 172, not a cup)is too... I take it that from your "172/Cup" message that its both 172 and Cups not just "172...

...i had the aerial leak twice and on both occasions it terminated the plip sensor... Second time round they actually fixed the fault. Adrian

..cool..you really look after your passengers! Dont suppose you pass through drinks and a duty free trolley too???!! ;P Adrian

dark...that must be quite an effort, I bet its not easy to skip tracks while driving either?! Adrian

Ive been told 14th of october my my dealer for my 172....The wait is killing me, but Ive only been waiting since the beginning of august, not june like you! Adrian

yeah...assuming youre who I think you are! Adrian

Id try parlez-vous anglais! (or swap the yes/no cases around!) ;) Adrian

..ooops, and to answer your original question the denisons are supposed to be pretty bad... Adrian