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I have just spent the last hour at my local QuikFit who kindly allowed me full use of their ramp / lift. I have taken about 75 images of the underside detailing the following Exhaust run, boxes, cat, lama location etc. Front suspension, drive shafts, ARbar Gear linkages Fuel tank...

will you like the result though ???.. If you have a good image of the car with the wheels on I can paint them white for you to see ?..

Hi Cheif, yes, the block is iron.. and bloody strong. I understand what you are saying about keeping low boost and original pistons.. the difficulty will be using low boost... and maintianing it.. a waste gate actualtor from a mini metro turbo might work, it has a very low boost (about...

Hi Ben, yes, it could be total coincidence, but the fact that the noise steps on pressing the clutch pedal tends to indicate release bearing or gearbox input shaft.. I am sure it will clear up after a day or two though.. (If caused by degreasant) Joe.

Agreed Eddd. On a circuit (not track day, but proper racing) every little helps. and yes, that extra virtual power - or more correctly increase in power to weight ration would be benficial. Just not really on a road car... Joe

Hi all Has cliosport got space to host them.. there is about 20 Megabytes in total, but would form a great reference library. ? providing I retain the copyright I have no problems with that. they would be there for anyones reference. (Tim, sorry, I aint got enough web space for them...

Rich, Hiya M8.. as for changes on the cup suspension.. I think you will find the following. revised bottom ball joint mounting.. this will increase camber and castor angles giving a slightly wider track and lowering the car by a few mm (Due to KPI angle increase only) the front springs...

hmm, ben M8.. I actually think it could be the release bearing.. this is not subject to compreesion unless the clutch is depressed. Drive it around abit, itl either get better or get worse... Joe..

LOL Pugboy Yep, bloody thing is so embarassing.. need more power Egor... keep getting blown off by Craggy on a 0-100 run lol.. As for resale price of imports (They ARE official UK spec.. and ALL clios are imported ).. interesting, but I dont think it holds up.. there is NOTHING on my...

I have just spent the last hour at my local QuikFit who kindly allowed me full use of their ramp / lift. I have taken about 75 images of the underside detailing the following Exhaust run, boxes, cat, lama location etc. Front suspension, drive shafts, ARbar Gear linkages Fuel tank...

Hi Ben, yes, it could be total coincidence, but the fact that the noise steps on pressing the clutch pedal tends to indicate release bearing or gearbox input shaft.. I am sure it will clear up after a day or two though.. (If caused by degreasant) Joe.

hmm, ben M8.. I actually think it could be the release bearing.. this is not subject to compreesion unless the clutch is depressed. Drive it around abit, itl either get better or get worse... Joe..

LOL Pugboy why on earth would guys with a 172 want a cup .. maybe the other way around me thinks... everytime a knowledgable driver sees a cup.. they will say.. "oh look, its one of them new cup clios.. the ones for the guys who cant afford the real thing" and all owners will be...

you will notice absolutely no difference in performance between 172 std and 172 cup bargain basement. If you have not been in a std 172, then you have missed out.. where are you located ?.. I am sure someone will take you for a realistic appraisal, as the test drive you had seems to have...

dont think you would need that.. the exhaust is pretty good to startwith.. I wouldnt bother chipping a normally asperated car either .. Nick Hills induction kit is one of the few that actually works, so when he sorts out the top end fuelling (and thats already being prepared, then you...

the feedback is not so dependent on the unsprung weight m8.. the unsprung weigh reduction will allow better contact profile and faster reaction (with an appropriate shock absorber - may need to be lighter than normal in dampening terms ?) the feedback is probably better sorted by castor...

Ben M8, can u post images of the kit fitted to a car (mk2) ?? Cheers... might be worth considering if I go 4*4 next year.. Joe

Anders, yes Sir, I agree too. for a track day car,, you could buy one hell of a lot of car for 12k !.. and the cup wouldnt be on the top of my list I really do think its a marketting exercise.. Joe

Hi Chavvy.. 11 at the flywheel.. in other words, to make the 172 perform the same as a cup, with al the extra comforts, you would need to add about 11bhp at the flywheel. there would be no difference in performance then. the suspension mods at the front may be worthwhile. The castor...

but, does it improve things..... ? I consider that if you make it niggly and follows cambers etc then you have upset the handling, not improved it. ?? there is a lot to be said for learning to drive the car as is so that objective comparisons can be made. Joe

LOL Pugboy why on earth would guys with a 172 want a cup .. maybe the other way around me thinks... everytime a knowledgable driver sees a cup.. they will say.. "oh look, its one of them new cup clios.. the ones for the guys who cant afford the real thing" and all owners will be...

Ok, just calculated some figures for the clio cup 172.. in relation to the normal top of the range 172. by loosing apx 190 lbs of weight, the difference is equivelent to 8.39 horsepower at the wheels, thats it.. thats all she wrote. so the choice is 8.39 at the wheels (.33 less time over...

you will notice absolutely no difference in performance between 172 std and 172 cup bargain basement. If you have not been in a std 172, then you have missed out.. where are you located ?.. I am sure someone will take you for a realistic appraisal, as the test drive you had seems to have...

dont think you would need that.. the exhaust is pretty good to startwith.. I wouldnt bother chipping a normally asperated car either .. Nick Hills induction kit is one of the few that actually works, so when he sorts out the top end fuelling (and thats already being prepared, then you...

the feedback is not so dependent on the unsprung weight m8.. the unsprung weigh reduction will allow better contact profile and faster reaction (with an appropriate shock absorber - may need to be lighter than normal in dampening terms ?) the feedback is probably better sorted by castor...

Ben M8, can u post images of the kit fitted to a car (mk2) ?? Cheers... might be worth considering if I go 4*4 next year.. Joe

Anders, yes Sir, I agree too. for a track day car,, you could buy one hell of a lot of car for 12k !.. and the cup wouldnt be on the top of my list I really do think its a marketting exercise.. Joe

Hi Chavvy.. 11 at the flywheel.. in other words, to make the 172 perform the same as a cup, with al the extra comforts, you would need to add about 11bhp at the flywheel. there would be no difference in performance then. the suspension mods at the front may be worthwhile. The castor...

but, does it improve things..... ? I consider that if you make it niggly and follows cambers etc then you have upset the handling, not improved it. ?? there is a lot to be said for learning to drive the car as is so that objective comparisons can be made. Joe

Ok, just calculated some figures for the clio cup 172.. in relation to the normal top of the range 172. by loosing apx 190 lbs of weight, the difference is equivelent to 8.39 horsepower at the wheels, thats it.. thats all she wrote. so the choice is 8.39 at the wheels (.33 less time over...