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aye^ went out in darrens, and was shocked at the amount of grip.. i test drove a 197 a while back, and thought it was good, but wasnt as good as my coil'd 182. was VERY impressed with the 197 though..
and like someone said, you wont notice the difference on the road between no cup...
Ali - leave the poor boy alone.. you were bound not to like it since its not got turinis on it ;) plus just didnt you have lexus lights on the 1.2? ha ha
not to my taste either tbh..