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Good stuff, be interesting to hear what they are like. Did you specify the 'happy-ending' with Fred? Worth the extra 50p.

Yet. It wasn't long ago that V8's weren't able to hit those heights.

No doubt that plays a part. But there are also packaging and weight benefits.

Which one's have you got to go on fella?

But if M-division and Ferrari are accepting turbo's are the way forward, it's clearly the future.

I love the concept. But you have to be realistic, a FWD hot hatch with fixed buckets, no rear seats, harnesses, no stereo is a nonsense for everyday use. Crappy rear bench, reclining (light) buckets, how much slower would it of been, really? It would of been a vastly better car, sold more...

Really? The 182 got plenty of press adoration before the Trophy? Again, couldn't diagree more. The R26 was a press favourite before the R, Autocar named it the best hatch in production.

I'll be honest, comparing the Veyron is nuts. The Veyron redefined what a car can do. The R26R merely comfirmed what was already known, lose a s**t load of weight and FWD can be epic. Difference being, any manufacturer could do what Renault did, but won't because it's a poinltess exercise. It...

I prefer the rocco r, probably my fav sub 30k car right now n

Although everyone applauds a car like that, not many want to own a car like that. I think future specials are more likely to be fully loaded with unique details (colour etc).

If I was going to keep the 172, I'd take a Golf GTi. If it was a one car deal, I'd be hard pushed to choose between the Focus and the Rocco R.

He was a c**k. Couldn't drive for toffee (I was 2 up), and spent the whole day playing billy big dick in the pits. Then on the drive home, I ended up on the same stretch, and he was behaving like a tit. Until the 500bhp rs4 turned up and spanked him silly:D. There was a very well driven one at...

Indeed.

Couldn't agree more. I've been on track with a very poorly driven FRS, and it still just disappeared on the back straight, incredibly rapid. XPFo8KfJCgU

Erm, priority on future tests with Renault? Do you not remember when Ferrari threw a hissy fit and wouldn't lend evo cars because they didn't win COTY? Exists in all fields, reviews and group tests are very rarely unbiased and genuine. How else do you explain cars like the mk1 FRS, where some...

CS didn't suggest it was fixed, the ex-clio cup race driver there did ;). I'd take an RS over any Renault. Different gravy tbh.

There's not a vast difference in ultimate corner speed between a 197/frs. But the focus obliterates it in a straight line, especially accelerating from a slow corner.

Any free programs about for copying music off the iphone?

Watch out for bent rear axles though.:eek:

Apple are shite sometimes.

So I can only use the iPhone with one laptop at a time without deleting everything, then have to mess about re-downloading everything??

Old laptop broke, got a new one today. Connected the iPhone to the laptop (after dl'ing itunes) and I can't seem to access any of my music (ie can't delete songs off the phone etc). Any solutions?

Birchdown is a fair old trek from where the OP lives, Tweeks even further.

Not at all lol. There's more across the rev range, just a bigger increase low down.

I had one on the 182. w**k. Poorly built, poorly fitting. Very poorly fitting.

He's too busy, his vee will never run again. He'll turn into some gollum like figure, clutching dusty Renault keys.

Did you try phoning fred?

Glad to see people coming around to the v12's. I've lost count of how often I've posted the tyre test link lol.

Yes mate, there's a newer ph1 map that I need to upload, then I'll probably sell it. You can borrow it if you want to map yours.

There's no point in changing above 7k (max), slower.