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There was a 968 going round well, shame the Scud couldn't get on.

Mine has costs me under £4k total (excluding consumables). You could easily end up spending £2-3k on the 182, which is silly imo.

No-one's said it won't be good on track. In fact, my point was that it would be good, but not as good as a dedicated track ****. But there are issues like warranty and insurance to consider. I'm normally quoted £50+ per track day for me cheap 172. Which is why I don't bother, I would of paid...

Depends what you're after fella. If funds allow, a dedicated track setup will be miles ahead. Also depends how much you rely on the daily driver. I've probably been without mine for 4 weeks over a 18month period due to issues on track. There's also the issue of warranty with a new car, and...

Iirc you waded in with high horses? Save that attitude for the day job. Oh look, another edit.

Mine's vastly more fun than standard, but it's still FWD. That's the reason for changing.

Good work fella.

Rubbish. It's a road car, on road car suspension. A proper track car won't be much use on road, but a different league on track. Ask Matt how quickly that pesky 172 disappeared from the 200 on track. You seem to have missed the bit where he's talking about a 'track car'. A 200 will be a better...

Hankook V12 evo. As an all rounder, they are in a different league to Toyo/Parada's. And in general, Porsche drivers are more show than go ;).

No-one has said it's a problem, just that the cable throttle is better.

If you can't feel the difference, fair enough. But it's there.

Having own both, there's a big difference. Feel free to come and try mine.

Ph1 is the proper lightweight edition.

Def sounds like lambda.

182cup has a different wheel. No thumb grips, smaller diameter (slightly) and the rim is thinner.

A 182FF has that as well.

Silver wheels imo. Anthracite has been done to death.

As far as the 197's go, I wouldn't touch a cup, purely because of the reduced adjustment in the driving position.

Correct. That's why we hear about more 172's crashing over winter than cups. Hang on.......

Nonsense! It's actually smaller than a standard 182 wheel, and doesn't melt. Might not look as pretty (we all know you hard-core lot mostly purchased for the pretty blue;)), but works better.

Tell you whats half hearted. Dropping ABS but leaving in airbags:o.

You don't miss out on anything worth having.

Worth a read. http://www.ridedrive.co.uk/tipoffs01.htm

They probably haven't made an opinion, merely jumped on the bandwagon. I ended up going for a cup, as the 1*2 xenons are poor (uprated bulbs are actually brighter), the climate doesn't work well (and you still get AC), and the autowipers are terrible.

Wrong.

Equipment wise, a ph1 is identical to a Trophy (bar cruise/tc).

I'm on my 5th, never had one as bad as that.

Could be that an aftermarket HU was fitted, and they've just not connected the renault unit up correctly. 2 bent bits of coat hanger will get the HU out.

Is it the standard headunit?

You could sell your car, get a ph1 with plenty work done to it, and have money left over.