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Just emailed a diesel company that special with reconditioning and testing of the ford / jaguar group fuel sytems.
Hopefully I should get a graph or readout from a 1.8 TDCI pump on the test bench. Aswell as pulley sizes , Pump RPMs and feed pressure to The pump :)
If not, i'll buy a second...
That's ok then. One less issue.
1.8 pumps seems to be built better looking at owners forums.
Non chrome coated pump aswell ! WIN ! :D means it won't s**t itself all inside the fuel system
Don't forget we may need a different rail sensor aswell or the ecu wouldn't be able to read over what thendci 1.5 has. 2000bar I think or was it 1800bar
i had mine mapped at a diesel specialist when I had my old engine. The crank let go so I replaced the engine, recoded the ecu to standard
At the time it was straight through exhaust , DCI 80 IC DCI 100 turbo, and crdi injectors.
Unfortunatly I have placed the read out in a ' safe place ' so...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-MONDEO-MK3-2-0-TDCI-DIESEL-FUEL-PUMP-/190938829489?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2c74d752b1 cheap enough for someone to buy and strip down for examining the internals
Probably would need the housing of the 1.5 pump machining if theres any BIG difference between all the pumps.
I wouldn't rule that out tho. It would be helpfull as we can use all the original mounting points aswell as retaining the DCI pulley
Theirs two types, the Y reg focus I worked on had 4 outlets
Unless ford called it something else. Unless that's what the old type TDDI is.
Yupp, I'm a tit, TDDI 1.8 focus engine has a four outlet pump.
Tdci 1.8 has one :o
Any really, 1.8 TDCI 2.0/2.2/2.4 all look compatable to a degree but flow rates make the issue arise, it's ok just changing pumps but they can be just the same flow rate a 1.5dci pump meaning you have achieved nothing lol
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-TRANSIT-FUEL-INJECTION-PUMP-2-4-TDCi-135-140PS-DELPHI-TYPE-MK6-04-06-/271120983582
That would work. 2.0-2.4 transit pump
Different insides. One outlet means constants pressures.
4 outlets can be 180 out. Meaning you could be firing injector 4 when you really want injector 4. If you look at a common rail pump all apart and look at Old style electronic controlled mechanical pump, you'll see pistons as appose to a...
I know pump RpM differences makes a big difference. Theirs a topic on the 206 forum about thier 1.4 hdi's using BMW 2.0 R70 pumps with better flow rates and a slight difference in rpm
Yes common rail supplies a constant pressure and the need for crucial pump timming isn't needed. They can't be...
If we come up with something I will hold back on a pd conversion and actually see what the 1.5 is made of :)
Ant, I could be wrong , Iv only seen a Y reg 1.8 TDCI. So they could of change stuff nearer to 53
It'll be down to the pumps internal design and the inline lift pump.
Im betting on a better sized cam plate inside and better. Bigger pistons
Pulley isn't a problem. Aslong as its a common rail and not VE
We could some how machine or adapt the cam wheel already on the DCI pump to fit...
As I said in the other thread I'm looking into it all, so far it's only crdi or ford parts that will fit without modifications
Would be good if someone knew the specs for flow rates on the TDCI system
Will do, I'm still researching the flow rates and spray patterns of certain types of systems,
I know the DCI 1.5 pump cannot be modded as I've stripped one , it's very poorly designed.
Its defiantly looking like ford systems
Could do, I have made a thread on hybrid modding a DCI but that was more talk on the internals side not fuelling.
It would be usefull as a finally outcome can be achieved. Just no one can be bothered to try other parts on them.
As soon as mines no longer a daily, I will strip the engine down...
You need to use delphi systems.
The newer 106 is the same 100 engine but a Bosch fuel system which is to much hassle to retro fit and program.
And the DCI 100 in the mk2 Delphi format cannot push past 130 stock wise.
Injectors can give a bit more but the pump is the limiting factors.
I am...
Chrysler crdi 2.9 injectors fit the DCI and have the exact same conections
Managed 143 ,
Pump was properly limited and turbo couldn't boost anymore,
Ive looked into 1.8/2.0/2.2 TDCI ford parts, the 2.0 pump and 1.8 injectors could push 170 with the right safe map and a good cnt turbo.
Only...
Diff can be bolted with that adapter plate, freind of mine with a cup did his.
Works fine, even if I think the m5 bolts are to small. Saying that it's 8 bolts so should be fine
Don't think Alex will put up with me blowing DCI engines up trying to make stupid power out of them haha ;) or a parts store full of pumps and injectors