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Most of the Clio's I see around here are driven by 30 somethings tbh. Very few chavs funnily enough.

Lol, i know. I just copied and pasted my reply to that thread into this one :) It's one of those things that comes up all the time.

I had the better tyres on the front, understeer is much safer on the road than oversteer. Just drive drive it sensibly.

If I thought I was wrong, I wouldn't have spent £700 buying me some 15" ultraleggeras.

I think the figures and videos don't do them justice.

Not so much, I just hate it when people argue things that they don't understand. It wasn't a personal thing, your car is quick, there's no debating that. It's just fact that lighter wheels are better.

The laws of physics rule here. Energy is needed to bring the wheel/tire mass up to speed (mph) and to spin it to the related rpm. Consider a lighter tire/wheel combo: m = mass reduction I = inertia reduction w = rotational speed v = car speed r = tire radius E = total energy saved by mass...

And that means that it wouldn't be better on 15's does it? You're wrong. I'm not going to post the formula again as it's very long and I can be arsed. But, lighter wheels are better. FACT. And I'm guessing that, from your answer, you don't understand the physics, and are just spouting crap...

LOL. ok then. I'm assuming you don't understand anything about the physics behind the reasons why lighter wheels are better? you've just decided that you're right?

Clio's look s**t on 17's. 16's are best overall for looks, unless your car is on coilovers. 15's aren't just for looks. They're better in every respect, better handling, better acceleration, cheaper tyres, better range of tyres, lighter etc etc etc. Why don't you find out why people say...

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Other peoples quotes make no difference to you whatsoever. Everyone is individual. Try Sky insurance (on here) , Adrian Flux, Greenlight and Admiral. Sky give a discount for CS club members

^^^ I was with you, until you mentioned 'the loudest.com', their stuff is W.A.N.K. Go for Some good components up front, but co-axials will surfice for the rear. What's your budget?

They are pricey, but I can't think of a single person that has regretted buying one. Rave reviews all round.

So, Thurrock services at 3pm then? And Crawley folks, 1.30 at Cineworld. 1. Jack_kemp 2. quik99 3. Dammo_Sport 4. alexessex_7 yes?

Vigilante ftw. as much as I know it's not smart. If i caught some f**ker keying my car, I'd beat the living crap out of them. If I thought for a second that the police would do anything about it, then you wouldn't have to take it into your own hands.

Aha, ok I know where that is (other than in Thurrock I mean). There we go then, Thurrock services it is! Unlikely that we'll get moved on from there too. RM16 3BG according to Google, for anyone that wants it.

Rubbish! The orange looks amazing!

Real men buy yozza's. BUT, if you want something quieter, buy a btb. equal best build quality to yozza.

I just wanted to do the fast food rap tbh.... :cool: Vicky, we haven't mentioned the services yet.... that does sound better though. Easy for everyone to find. I only mentioned Mcdonalds because a lot of people (including me) don't really know where they are going.... Which services are they?

I'm not a fan myself.

OP, what the hell is your location all about?

I'm assuming you don't mean mk3......

As said mk3 ph1 You can fit 197 headlights, but they need some wiring modifications iirc. Just buy osram bulbs. Plenty good enough.

Almost as annoying as the windscreen wipers being on the wrong way round. Lazy French b*****ds.

You can have great fun with these people.

Massively better with eibach's and a geo set up. Night and day.

But if you get rid of the seats, wheels and sachs, then you've basically got a red 182 anyway? I suppose there's not a lot in it really.

The trophy is only worthwhile if you're going to keep it standard suspension wise IMO. Since you could buy a 182, a pair of bimarco's and some good coilies and still be spending less money, I'd find it difficult to hand my money over for a trophy.