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Torque limiting is the future. Ferrari are using it as a way to replicate NA feel, with the inherent mpg benefits of modern turbos. If it helps the longevity of the car, I don't see a problem?

Ignore me, confuse between LSD and torque vectoring.

Is it actual torque vectoring, or a version of brake steer?

Supermarket fuel? Brave/foolish!

I normally get 340 miles from the 172 before the light comes on. That's mixed driving, motorway at 80. No doubt the st is a bit more economical than a 1*2 (fuel wise!)

Range should be 450miles plus at 45mpg.

Weirdly one of my favourite cars. Surprisingly quick, lovely ride/handling.

Not disputing that, would be interested to know how it compares to the calculated. Ran a 1.8tdci for a while. Trip read 70mpg, but was only actually doing 57mpg. If it's actually 45mpg+ that's superb.

Actual 50mpg (ie calculated?)

Those mats will be ducked after Le Mans.

Was quite close to us. Could see the smoke from Dunlop!

That's the one! Unattended BBQ wasn't it?

Just be careful with the BBQ's. Sure we all remember the fire lol

That age of car, I'd buy on condition alone. Can't be too picky with 10yr old s**t boxes.

Is this the one you've looked at? http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/renault/renaultsport-clio/-reduced-for-the-weekend--renault-clio-172-ff-in-flame-red--49k-miles/2130646

I'd rather have good bodywork and belts need doing. That way you can get the belts done somewhere reputable and know it's been done correctly. But tbh, it's a £2-3k 10yr old car. There will be some issue's.

Christ. Paid £2000 for mine in jan. 53k miles, decent condition. Needed belts doing, and one or two other small issues. £1700 on 91k!

Dealer told me it only works on android atm. Will be updated soon though.

Looks really nice. Colour looks even better in the flesh, has a slight purple tint.

They're recaro speeds, but direct from recaro. It's a special order colour, black with red double stitching. V supportive!

If they're ones that I fitted, trendlines (same as trophy) but without the belt guides.

Still got the recaro's?

I've had pretty much all variations. Ph1 172: my personal favourite. They do look older, but prefer the way they drive (15's, cable throttle) Ph2 172: best compromise. More modern looking, better spec. Exhaust is cheaper when (not if) it breaks. More suspension options than a cup'd 182. I...

My old car!

10% extra per month so someone else gets the benefit when it goes back? Nah. St2 is very well specced. Has everything you could reasonably need. St2 mountune'd. Done.

Did you not consider a Megane? Seems a more natural alternative.

I'd seen their website, good to know they're decent. Thanks

Whiteline arb, and the koni yellow kit if you do change. Adjustable damping, but fixed height.