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I like roll; it gives you a far greater tangible sense of the weight transfer and overall balance which is what you want if you're trying to improve your skills. Also means that if you do get it all wrong, you're likely to get earlier warning signs and greater progression as it lets go.

Alloy airbox with a second cold air feed and a revised map only. There's an intercooler available but it's not part of the package.

Couldn't be happier. Mountune is happening only because it's wrong not to. If no Mountune were available I'd still be looking forward to the next 90k miles in it as it is.

It's not really comparable but I filmed one run to try and capture the noise, nothing special, wasn't properly going for it as it was still quite new...

They feel good to drive don't they! I've got a 1 litre EcoBoost next week while I get mine MP215'd. I'm really looking forward to thrashing about in it for a day.

Seems appropriate to dig this old one out... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BE4edzLua8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Unless someone's performed major surgery on it, it is not a Cup.

Cloth interior, no climate control, no headlight washers?

That's what the video said. Would you really expect any more from the ST when compared to an M3?

The E46 being the 'undisputed sports saloon of choice' is relevant to a 'how much fun on the road can USD22k get me' in what way? It's a car chosen for it's value and fun, as is the ST. There's no defensiveness here...people can call my car whatever they want...I encounter far worse on a daily...

This is the trouble with the ST. Too many people like yourself have instant and immediate prejudice without giving it a chance. That's fine by me...and it does make me chuckle a little that so many who want a proper drivers hot-hatch dismiss what's currently and clearly the best out there. It's...

That is very nice. Would your father like my right b***ock?

Pretty much exactly what the video concluded. Day to day, the ST is as fun to drive as the M3...and given USD22k, either would deliver to a keen driver.

Only 60-70% of people will turn up...maybe less if it rains!

It's about the 'fun-on-the-road' factor for a comparable (US) price. On that basis it's six of one and half a dozen of the other.

In summary, 50/50.

Isn't this the chap that's also on 'Drive'?

Not entirely correct. My 200 (09 plate) had the old style and no front grille RS badge either.

Can't fault mine. Still learning how to get the best balance of performance/features/battery life from it.

That looks proper tidy Joe! Must meet up at some point when it's dry so I can have a look over yours and vice versa.

Good find!

Almost guaranteed that does not have the cup suspension pack. Fitting a set of anthracite wheels (or even painting the silver non-Cup ones anthracite) to a non-Cup car would have been easy for the original owner. Swapping Cup-spec red calipers all round to silver ones? Would have been a very...

Hmmmm. I love the way a completely nondescript family 5-door hatchback suddenly has cool points because of different rims and lows. FLOL It is still a nondescript family 5-door hatchback...but just slightly less practical.

WTF is on the back window of that 200? Golf looks, err, just like a Golf.

Yep. Get them swapped.

If you're planning on a lot, get the Cup chassis. if you're planning on a few, don't. It really is that simple.

Do you plan to do any trackdays? If not, give serious consideration to finding a non-Cup. Its blend of suppleness and control is perfect for the roads and it does it without loosening fillings. I did 30k in mine along with several trackdays...it was never as sharp on track as my 172 Cup was...

What about having enough momentum to carry you for next mile and a half with no additional throttle at all? My commute has a few sections like this, so long as there's nothing ahead that could cause me to brake I just roll in sixth for miles. It does get a bit lively at the top though.

I've never once experienced brake fade on the road. On track, on a standard setup, I need several big (120mph) stops before anything starts to suffer. Maintaining a constant or slowly reducing speed down a gradient on the road isn't going to do the same. In days gone by when drums all round...

Exactly...If you get a good run down the hill in top gear you can use your momentum to keep you going for quite a while. If you drop down a couple of ratios beforehand though, you'll be on the gas way earlier. I chuckle every time I see a steep gradient sign with the 'select low gear' warning...