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never driven a 197 but I found the low down pull on my 200 better than my 172's but obviously that was one of the 200s stronger points with the different cylinder head and gearbox ratios
something looks funny with the back end of your car, heres my most recent one, you will notice my front drivers hub is bent and had to be corrected with a camber bolt until I get a new one ordered, also my caster is out as im running cup arms
loosen the 4 bolts on the upper drivers side engine mount, get someone to pull the engine forward as far as you can and tighten the mount back up, that usually cures it!
I bought a 172 for £1000 and spent £1300 on it the day I got it to make me happy with it.
now its a bit tatty on the outside/inside but it drives perfect!
you not get on with the gearbox? I loved it, loved it even more in my DCI106!
id also consider a fiesta ST150, ive never really given them a thought until I had a shot in one a few weeks ago and kinda wish I had gone for one of them for a change instead of another 172!, ok so performance wise...
the springs lower the front more so its slightly nose down, helps the turn in.
I had a 1.6 16v with they springs fitted...
if its a dynamique you have it should already have the 172/182 spoiler fitted, but if its a 03 plate or older it will be black plastic rather than colour coded, if its a...
I done it, well I went Clio 172, Clio 200, Twingo GT, Clio 172
I love the 200 and would have kept it if mine wasn't a nail, I considered getting another as I wanted to love the car and loved the way it drove when it was working, just mine was a heap.
personally I found the 200 was a better...
1.6 is a good little engine but not very tunable, Fastchip (www.fastchip.nl) do the RS tuner which allows you to upload one of their ECU maps, a few of the 1.6's on here are running them. Not massive gains to be had but gains none the less.
panel filters in the standard airbox can free them up...
bumpers ideally need wings which need sideskirts and you would want arch liners and spacers/wheels too so it ends up an expensive route although can and has been done a lot and looks brilliant!!
I recon you would get 172 hubs for £50, front callipers and new discs and pads (oem nothing fancy)...
going back to a non RS clio I think if I was fitting eibachs again id stick 172 hubs, brakes and dampers on it too! (if they fit cant remember what the ball joint looks like on a non rs!)
I done box out the top with engine still in on a dci65 was a pain, Im doing the clutch and box refurb on my 172 this winter and I think tbh ill just lift the engine and box out as one.
less reliable box? lol behave theres nothing wrong with it, its a massive upgrade over a JC5 in feel alone!.
of course abuse it and it will die just as quick as your JC5 would!
where the box is nicer, the ratios and 6 speed were really only to offset the weight of the 197/200 I bet a 172 in 5th...
agreed plus many already have 172 track cars so its an easy step up.
how many 182 track cars are on here compaired to 172's!!! I bet its not far off a 1:10 ratio!!! why? because its the same car at half the cost
I think its ridiculous, the exclusion of 172's plus lets be honest there isn't enough performance difference between a standard map and a remapped car to worry about, so standard ecu isn't a worry, everyone would be running fastchip 98ron anyway!
im with john on this one why not just regulate it...
seems totally pointless when you cold save nearly enough to compete for a year by running a 172 on 15" wheels with the standard ecu!!
(lol @ everyone flying round on pops and bangs maps!!)