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I forget what the std one is like now, had this on for about 18 months. I'm sure it revs more freely with it. Maybe slight increase in noise, but about the same really. But if anything it's life is much longer, and therefore will save you money after buying replacement std filters.

A 172 Cup should at least in theory handle better, it's not just about springs and dampers, the fact it's lightweigth helps handaling. Rather boring topic this though, the same old, and everyone is too biased, I am, lol.

Panel filter is a decent improvement over standard. Don't expect an increase in performance though.

I think the Trophy will hold it's value better. There are a lot less Trophys than Cups, and the 182 Cup didn't sell well because it wasn't a real cup (ok that's my opinion).

Free Servicing?? Not bad. I've had my Cup now for over 18 months, and it keeps putting a smile on my face. I've tested a few new cars recently and none of them have tempted me away from the car.

Mate lives there, so been down that are a couple of times.

Trophy money.

But what if I want some lift off oversteer ;)

Wuss ^ lol. Do whatever you feel comfortable with. Probably the wrong time of year to turn it off though if you are unsure.

Honest I never did that when my connection was fucked ;) Turn the MAC filtering and WAP on that will deter 99.9% of potential hijackers!

Some of you dodgy geezers must know :)

Bird in the pic aint half bad though. Maybe if she does it with only a snorkle on, lol.

You cannot beat a good ol' cable. That said I have a wireless router and use it all the time, don't get many problems at all.

Which is closer?

Anyone know where I can "aquire" some software for the N70. I basically need to get a better alarm setting, so that I can set the repeat days. Feel free to PM to keep it legal ;)

I can't see a lot happening price wise on the 172 / 182s, they are just so bloody cheap anyway. They can't get any cheaper. I can't think of any car that you can get for that cheap that goes as fast and is that age.

Look up the colour code on your car.

Makes me sick, cause I doubt I'll ever be able to own of them :( Unless someone can lend me ~£100k?

Nice, love that colour.

Do NOT pay £25k for an ST, they're lovely cars, but not worth that!!!!! You can get good prices from direct net dealers, shop around.

10.5k miniumum, it's 6 months old, I'd want to get more personally. Depends how much you paid I guess.

Mines obviously a MK2 Ph2 being a Cup. Thanks again for the work mate, seems to be a right pain for you now :S R20GRC: Yes that's right.

It does have very low mileage. I'd say it's worth 8k to the right buyer.

Not bad, would look better in 16" though I reckon.

Try Elephant, I was 23 at time of renewal and 2 yr NCB, manange to get it down to £750.

No problem.

I've got the Pro's, I like them.

Nice car, those alloys are too big imo though.

There's always loads of Cups up for sale; you can get clean examples np.

It's a MK2 Ph2.