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Yer indeed ^^ Obviously different manufacturers are taking different routes to make a good selling hot hatch. Imo that's a very good thing anyway, it gives us more choice on what sort of car we want, obviously Turbo / Supercharged cars drive differently to N/A engines (for the better part) and...

Also I think the new Punto GT is going to be a 1.6T.

It would do, but would it be better than a 2.0 N/A? Obviously Renault don't think so. But then a lot of new hothatches are going like this, the new Pug will be, the Mini is getting a turbo I think? Currently on a supercharger. I'm sure there must be others as well, is the Ibiza Cupra a...

Very true Steve The Type R is a hell of a brand, unfortunately the RenaultSport brand isn't respected as much. Bloody well should be though, who won F1 again? :)

I quite like it either way. But like someone mentioned on there it would a shame if it was a real williams.

I like both cars, both have faults and some very good positives. I haven't driven a CTR anywhere as much as my Cup though so it's hard to compare. I'm sure your mate will keep up a lot better when he gets used to the car more and can push it further on it's limits.

Lovely car! Welcome.

lol ^

Awesome! I wouldn't have the guts to drive it around though :o

*cough* Mondial Blue is *cough* :D Welcome, glad to see another saxo owner convert :)

Probably too much to be worth considering. You can do those leasing things with Renault, after 3 years cough up to buy it or give it back. Think they are 12k a year. I wouldn't bother though, just buy one! :)

That is a lot of problems :( Hope you stick with it now they are all sorted!! I wouldn't really say it was the first of the production line, about 90% of it is a 172 which they had been making for a couple of years!

It does bother me, I won't even have store loyalty cards for the reasons above. But then I do have credit / debit cards, so can't win.

I'm getting the twin, looks much better than the oval imo.

Beautiful, liking the type face on the plates as well.

www.webmonkey.com Some basic tutorials on there that might help you get started.

Safari :D

Look on the Dell outlet Bryan some of my mates have got very good deals on there. There is usually plenty of selection for all budgets.

The orange colour is quite nice!

It really is, even if it's a diesel :approve:

There was never a Mk1 172 Cup only Mk2.

Hmm, not keen, maybe just get away with them with silver paint.

You knowsit :approve:

It's weird seeing a Racing Blue clio with silver alloys!

Doesn't look that dirty! Nice colorus, shame about one of the cars ;)

Are you buying it from a dealer or private? If you buy it from Reno it will come with at least one year.

Good choice :D Is it a 182 / 172? What colour?

I hardly ever open the boot anyway, so civic one is fine for me.

Isn't that just a clio aerial?

WinPDF as well is a good one. The only problem with the ones I've seen is you cannot edit PDFs only create them, namely why I still have Adobe install on this machine.