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    Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project [Year 3 - Engine and Chassis Rebuild]

    Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project Just connected a fresh battery to crank it over.....just exactly the same, cranks and cranks, this is with the replacement coilpack too. Andrew....if im getting 2 x 12v's...does that mean the immobiliser is not active? or something else?
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    Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project [Year 3 - Engine and Chassis Rebuild]

    Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project Not touched it parts wise for around 2 weeks+ at least, was driving and starting perfectly fine all day wednesday, drove it home, parked it up....came out 4 hours later and nothing, just cranks and cranks and cranks. Dont think anythings been disrupted, not...
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    Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project [Year 3 - Engine and Chassis Rebuild]

    Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project Dont see how it could be an ECU problem though....unless ive been very unlucky and somethings fried. Had it open yesterday and it was bone dry inside, so cant be water damage. Also, it did fire up for a second at least, twice when cranking, but cut out...
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    Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project [Year 3 - Engine and Chassis Rebuild]

    Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project apparently its the other two wires that get earthed according to sidewaysdanny in another thread...so I guess i could multi meter it. Thing is though, im guessing there will be no signal for the spark....no idea what to go on then, as im unsure what would...
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    Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project [Year 3 - Engine and Chassis Rebuild]

    Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project Coilpack fitted. Still doesn't start. FFS.
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    Cranking and Not Firing

    yeah, tried rotating them. Thing is fuel is coming to the line on priming and cranking (checked with jerry can)...the coil is also getting voltage on cranking, which the TDC will not allow if its getting an insufficient signal, surely? Unsure if the actual injectors themselves are firing, but...
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    Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project [Year 3 - Engine and Chassis Rebuild]

    Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project Yeah...although probably easier to pop the inlet manifold off and look down the lower inlet, can see the injectors near enough there :)
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    N/W Xmas Meet, Nandos 13th December.

    Re: N/W Xmas Meet I just said to Jamie on MSN that im going to a unit behind speedkarting tommorow, il call in and see the price/availability situation if anyone wants me to?
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    Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project [Year 3 - Engine and Chassis Rebuild]

    Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project I just picked up a spare coilpack, will put it on in the morning and hopefully it will fire up. If not il pop the fuel rail out and give that a try, sounds the easiest way to do it! Dont see why it shouldn't be the coilpack though, as its getting a feed on...
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    N/W Xmas Meet, Nandos 13th December.

    Re: N/W Xmas Meet Yeah they are expensive for 'arrive and drive', usually can bargin with them for groups etc. Speedkarting is reasonable for groups, probably the best track round the N/W....3 levels of track etc
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    N/W Xmas Meet, Nandos 13th December.

    Re: N/W Xmas Meet Karting would be a good idea, but i would think availability might be limited due to companies having staff christmas events and the like...would have to find out... Speedkarting/Daytona/etc there are loads about, prices vary quite a bit though
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    RS Tuning Rolling road day 7th Nov

    as said you dont need them for 172/182's :)
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    RS Tuning Rolling road day 7th Nov

    lol...Pub BHP ftw? Hopefully the coilpack will fix it. If not...well, who knows.
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    Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project [Year 3 - Engine and Chassis Rebuild]

    Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project possibly, I was just going to multi-meter the earth of the injector plug and test cont. between it and an earth on the chassis... Im going to try the coilpack first and hope for the best, if not then il have to try it
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    Cranking and Not Firing

    All the plugs were dry, and im getting fuel to the rail on cranking...came out of the line into a jerry can as it should. Coilpack is getting a voltage on cranking, but no spark what-so-ever. So im hoping its the coilpack that is knackered, going to test another one and go from there.
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    Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project [Year 3 - Engine and Chassis Rebuild]

    Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project Hopefully lending one from someone in a bit if I can get a lift down there, if I put that on and it works, problem solved! If not, well il be stumped!
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    Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project [Year 3 - Engine and Chassis Rebuild]

    Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project Cant really do that without taking the whole rail off and having 4 injectors splurting fuel out can I?!
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    Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project [Year 3 - Engine and Chassis Rebuild]

    Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project Its getting fuel for sure at the rail, popped the line off into a can and it comes out fine on cranking. Tried a spare lead + spark plug against the block from the coil and its getting nothing. If it was an immobiliser issue the coil wouldnt be getting a...
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    RS Tuning Rolling road day 7th Nov

    Im only trying to get there first thing so I can pay up and get my car on and not have to wait for ages :) Last time we had one people just turned up throughout the day
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    Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project [Year 3 - Engine and Chassis Rebuild]

    Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project Yeah, would of thought I would hear it...nothing at all though. It was resting on and I could just see the metal pin of the lead, but no spark in sight. Fuel pump is getting voltage on cranking yeah, just going to test if its coming out at the rail on...
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    Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project [Year 3 - Engine and Chassis Rebuild]

    Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project Just took all the leads off, and left one 'resting' on its connector on the coilpack....no spark in sight though. Suppose I better take the inlet manifold off and test one of the plugs against the block, but I don't think its sparking at all.
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    RS Tuning Rolling road day 7th Nov

    Didnt even know you were going lol. Yeah sure :)
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    Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project [Year 3 - Engine and Chassis Rebuild]

    Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project Hmm so my 3 black ones are fuel pump, ECU power and fan control.....whats the big yellow one? :S
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    Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project [Year 3 - Engine and Chassis Rebuild]

    Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project This winter was the plan, to go with the cams when they went back in. Ive sold the cams, but im still going to standalone it I think....mainly due to the fact that Il be able to transfer it to any other project in the future if I want to. Cheers Ad, il go...
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    Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project [Year 3 - Engine and Chassis Rebuild]

    Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project Unsure, il try the other two things first. Wish I hadnt sold the RSTuner now so I could plug it in and get some diag back...assuming its not the immobiliser causing this, it would connect perfectly fine and show any faults (TDC/crank sensor would show as a...
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    Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project [Year 3 - Engine and Chassis Rebuild]

    Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project It may well be getting a voltage, but weather the coilpack is firing the spark plugs is another matter, will check that now. Going to pop the fuel line off and into a jerry can, and crank it to see if any fuel comes out.....if im right in saying it should...
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    Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project [Year 3 - Engine and Chassis Rebuild]

    Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project yeah. I just tested it, its giving out 12v for a second or so on ignition (when pump primes)...then around 10v while cranking (same as the pump, tested at that end too). So I know the coilpack is getting power when cranking... Did yours just show 0v?
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    Mk1 F4R/172'd Track Car Project [Year 3 - Engine and Chassis Rebuild]

    Re: Mk1 172 Hybrid Track Car Project Did you ever change the coilpack to see if it was that?! Il check the voltage at the white wire in a minute. Thing is, last time I had this issue was when I never even had an emulator, and since i fitted it, its ran 100% trouble free, until now! there is no...
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    Cranking and Not Firing

    Just checked... Ignition position 2, priming... 0v--------12v for a second or so-----0v Then Cranking 8v-10v Which is odd, as im sure the pump isnt running on cranking. I suppose I could pop the fuel line off and put it into a can and see if its coming out while cranking.
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    Cranking and Not Firing

    Yeah I keep meaning to get rid of it but anyway its fully depressed. I think when its active/popped up the pump wont run at all... I turned the ignition off and on to position 2 about 10-15 times not long ago, priming every time, then tried to start it. It fired up for second or so then just...
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