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And who's fault is that? I took out my own policy as soon as I passed my test, I was driving a Clio 16v when I was 18, Celica GT4 when I was 20, and Ive had a Clio 172 for the last two years, never paid more than 800 for insurance, now paying 500 with full NCB.

Thank you! I find it funny discussing the 172 vs ........ (enter hatchback of choice) so thought I'd add some fun to the usual "my 172 will hammer my mates 106 round the twisties". :)

If you cant beat him no more then give up, save your money and play safe.

were your tyres warm?

the Clio has better areodynamics and vents in the front bumper so it will stick to the ground on the twisties better, you also have to make sure you get the mitch Pilots upto temperature otherwise it wont stick so well on the twisties, abit like an F1 car...

Someone was ripped off big time them!!

1st March 01. Minw was registered 24 days later, so I have to pay around £80 more tax, pathetic

and do you really think downforce would come into it on a clio? I doubt it

err I think its because they are German actually...

is it not an even bigger job than normal to convert a diesel to a petrol 172?! Buy a 172, save cash, and resale value will be greater.

^^ they would put an intel. report in on your vehicle so that other Officers are aware should you continue to abuse the law. Using a car on a road is a privilege not a right, you should respect the rules like the majority of other road users do, plus it makes your car look crap anyway...

how much did it cost?

no brainer really, the number plates are that size/colour/font for a reason.. and not just to catch you speeding through camera's

It shouldnt happen to anyone! Someone who is in full control of a mechanically sound car will never see the rear end or whatever slip out! Thats the reason I posted!

Moral of the story is: dont plant a car round a wet roundabout and then blame the car/tyres!

that not monaco?!

Is it? they look the same to me!

after a phase 1 or 2?

yeah I was going to do that, I was wondering what they base their valuations on aswell!

Im concidering trading in/selling my ph1 172. I know prices are very subjective things and no one can really give an accurate price without seeing the car. Aa ph1 isnt something they would look to sell on, Id expect it to go off to auction or whatever they do. Looking at Parkers a Y2001...

I had a new light on my 172 because a clip had broke on mine, and it failed for the same reason, fortunately I was able to swap it. Alot of companies buy parts from abroad, whether it be new or used parts.

King Stromba breaks most of them for parts

battery lasts longer than what my N95 did. Only beef I have is that the icons in the top right are too small, the rest of it is sexy as

^^ dito, so they are basically keeping up with the rivals, well done. It just showed what hype can do to a product

vtec is the biggest let down ever!

Gotta disagree bud, just look how itunes has taken off over the last couple of years, CD's are nearly obsolete now. As internet connections get faster, legal movie downloads will come into their own. Those who still want something physical will stick with DVD. They will be around for years...

Im sure that if this common fault with the suspension was such a problem Renault would have recalled them by now, seeing as it changes the handling so dramatically! Someone either pressed the gas too hard, or touched the brake, or was even going too fast!

mycarcheck.com is a little misleading, typed my plate in and in big red writing We have further important information about Y$$$ $$$. I thought s**t! So I thought Id try another car off Ebay at random "We have further important information about YS54GLF, a Renault Clio Renaultsport 182 16v"...

neither will "win" in the long term, downloads are the future!

you dont need the original disc. I downloaded my vista and used a valid key with no problems