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I suppose it's what you want to spend your money on eh? I don't go out much - I'll have a drink once in a while but I'm not that into it. Of course I like socialising but I prefer keeping fit and driving.

Breathing mods and ECU are easiest way to gain horsepower, or so I've heard not an expert though :P

Cheers again I'm budgeting in advance for unexpected costs If the worst comes to the worst I should have a fair bit of money to cover it At the best I have some savings at the end of the year to play around with or put towards something else on the car

Cheers very informative

Well what would you consider a big MOT bill? My current car I've had from new and hasn't been MOT'd yet so I'm clueless on this factor.

I was asking to see if I could afford to run the car or not. Meaning..? I shouldn't buy one over 4 years or 60k mileage? Ta. I was basically asking how much owners on this forum budget or spend per year on servicing/spare parts.

Looking to either get a Trophy or a 172 Cup with 30-40k mileage I know about the cambelt needing replaced after 5yr or 70k Could anybody tell me what else I may need to check for? I want one in a good condition that I don't need to do much to (brake pads for example, or whatever) And how much...

Differences between 182 trophy and 172 cup? I could pick up a trophy for a grand extra hopefully. Would it be worth it? Bearing in mind group 17 vs. group 16 insurance.

I have to say mate proper nice car good to drive?

Fair enough, I'm going to try and test drive both, although this might be hard seeing as they're going to be second hand. Everybody I've asked prefers the look of the Civic but I suppose it doesn't matter what other people think

Yes the Clio seems to be cheaper to insure and gets better mpg, although not by much. But I'd hate the hassle of having an unreliable car. I think the Clio would be understated if it wasn't for the twin exhaust which I'm not a fan of...

I'm looking for a new car and I'm considering a secondhand 172/182. I have around £8000 which should pick me up a decent example. However, I'm deciding between a Civic Type-R and a Clio and, without causing an argument between the two cars, I'd like to know how reliable your 172/182s have been...