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Black wheels just don't have any impact, it's ok if you have MASSIVE brakes on the car and want to showcase them, but in reality you need something you can see to show your rims off, be different, do them in gold......

man you are gonna feel the difference in fuel from a dci to a RS197

still jealous

pea shooters have to go! otherwise cracking cars

Cracking road trip, just arranging one from here in the north east to west Scotland, should be a laugh

jealousy does that to people :rasp: cracking car, if I could afford a new one I would, pity I can't. Have to say black on black looks spot on

Leave them on. If you take them off you just end up with another standard 172. They ain't chavvy unless you haver ferking bass hunter playing with the fronts wide open :rasp:

think its mainly the stupidly low ratio box

agreed you would be better going for a diesel with that budget

Trophy is a better car, 182 is cheaper, if you have the money, get the better car.

I wonder what it was they did that made the 197 soooooooooo bad on fuel. 40+mpg is just not possible in mine, mid 30s is a target!

Everycar I have ever had from new has had "issues", it's nice to see a dealer sorting them better than any Vauxhall garage does

search is your friend ;) Yes it's down, it was hacked, Jase is apparently sorting it

making me really want anthracite turinis now, or super leggeras

cracking selection of cars, still reckon a 197 diffuser and wheels would make the 200 look better

'tis ok, kinda intrested myself

more likely to remove the rear decal (as in the rear stripe part) as I prefer the F1 style ones to the stripe, and the boot bit is the bit I kinda ain't fond of.

looks superb, reminds me of the 1.2 I had: Still say I loved that car

Cheers for the comments guys, think I agree on the wheels. NEVER liked anthracite wheels but needs must (they need a refurd anyways)

It's more the angles on the car that make a problem, the boot for example has three angle changes for the one sticker! The roof was easy (ish) and the bonnet is a nightmare as if you work from the centre line (as I did) it looks totally off :mad: Happy with the results though, and for £25 all...

is that down on the fish quay? nice pics

I notice you didn't do the bit under the spoiler? this is the section that is annoying me the most, think I might remove it

All done, it doesn't look right when you are close up, so will take pics/video of it coming down the road, which is when it looks awesome: I readliy admit that I will never put a stripe on a 197 again, as find a straight line on this car is like looking for a needle in a haystack!

love the phone but have to agree the camerea is a waste of space

nice one. iPhone does have a useless camera at night don't it......

Sad day when you change cars for kiddies. I did a few years back, sold one of the best spec'd Cooper Ss for a diesel Nissan Note (minis really do suck though when it comes to kids). Now have a 197 and all the room in the world. I just changed his seat (away from his huge Recaro ISO Fix one)

Can't comment about 197 v Type R as we have never crossed paths before, but my old Cooper S used to love destroying Type Rs, and I keep getting told the Cooper S ain't as quick.................... In the real world the Type R has a VERY narrow power band, and you can catch them napping quite...

V-Power all the time, car runs like crap on 95 octane (and is unbearable on a morning). Also get better mpg with V power, averaging 28mpg with V Power and 24 when I used 95 octane. Car runs superb on Tesco 99 but the nearest garage that stocks it is too far away to fill-up regularly.

If the wife spotted the Ferrari in a childs bay I would feel sorry for the owners, especially if she was in the Vecturd (it's her pet hate, and even I wouldn't argue with the wife when she is behind the wheel) Car looks nice and clean

must admit I prefer to put the bike in the car rather than out of it.