1.2 16v to a DCI 100?

[Thrill]

Hi guys,

Is it worth the upgrade from a 1.2 16v to a DCI 100? Insurance would be the same, it's cheaper to tax, better MPG but then the other bits and bobs are just the same price wise as 1.2s (I think!). I do love my 16v but just want something with a bit bigger engine. Is it a wise upgrade or just a waste of money? Should I keep the 1.2 for another year then go down the RS route? I am ultimately wanting an RS in the future, but just when it's not so ludicriously expensive insurance wise. If not DCI 100 for whatever reason, what about 80 or 65? Cheers lads.

 

[Brett]

I'd take a dci over a 1.2 anyway. Martin172 will be in here at some point he loves them. Have a look on cliodci.net I believe Martin is involved in that too.

 

[BoatNonce]

Stick with the 1.2, at least you've got a 16v :dapprove:

DCi's are nice, but I would only recommend choosing them instead of a 1.2 in the first place, rather than to replace one, because replacing your car just for a bit more grunt can put your long term plan (RS) on hold for that little bit longer.

 

[Daniel]

I'd rather have a dci 65 than a 1.2!

DCI 100's are win. The gearboxes are a bit s**t, but they're wicked little cars. I had a brand new one as a company car back in 2005 and managed to out drag my dad in his Mazda 6 on the way back from Alton Towers! lol.

 

[TonkaTruck]

dCi over 1.2 any day. I love my 100, little pocket rocket.

 

[Spinksy]

Stick with the 1.2, at least you've got a 16v :dapprove:

Lol!

I have been thinking this makes sense as a conversion tbh Luke, maybe a 1.9 dci from a Renault Kangoo/Nissan Kubistar

Would be plenty nippy and a lot better on fuel.. I'm sure the resident Chip would be along at some point to give advice on the logistics etc

 

[Thrill]

My 1.2 has had loads of money spent on it, pulls really well, well maintained etc. Just has a load of dents on it, creases and I just think it looks tatty. The paintwork is brilliant, it's just the dents! I'm really feeling a DCI 100. Are they quite nippy then? I'm not old enough for a RS yet, not experienced enough.

 

[TonkaTruck]

Take a look at Wests Renault dCi 80. One of the best dCi's out there.

 

[Martin_172]

epic cars, mine would give a 172 a good run for its money from 40-100!!

worlds apart from a 1.2 16v but definaltey a compromise between economy and performance, if you just want the performance then 172 all the way!

 

[Thrill]

epic cars, mine would give a 172 a good run for its money from 40-100!!

worlds apart from a 1.2 16v but definaltey a compromise between economy and performance, if you just want the performance then 172 all the way!

Is yours just standard mate? Definitely thinking about it. All my mates have gone diesel so might as well just the gang! The 16v does keep up with their turbo diesels though!

 

[Martin_172]

mine was mapped and filter, decent rubber, suspension and brakes, was a riot!

if your 1.2 is keeping up with there diesels then they don't have very powerful diesels!

 

[Thrill]

Ah I see, I think im gonna save up for a dci. Whay prices we looking at for dynamique spec, <100k miles. Thanks everyone!

 

[Spinksy]

Ah I see, I think im gonna save up for a dci. Whay prices we looking at for dynamique spec, <100k miles. Thanks everyone!

About 1-1500 iirc dependent on a load of things Luke, best bet is to post in the what is my car worth thread with a load of details mate

 

[Thrill]

About 1-1500 iirc dependent on a load of things Luke, best bet is to post in the what is my car worth thread with a load of details mate

Did the dcis have leaky sunroofs? Dont want one with a leaky sunroof!

 

[Chi]

epic cars, mine would give a 172 a good run for its money from 40-100!!

Seriously? ?

 

[Spinksy]

Did the dcis have leaky sunroofs? Dont want one with a leaky sunroof!

They will on the principal that they have the same shells and sunroofs as the non-sports mate so same chances tbh

 

[Toby.]

how old are you though buddy, cause my insurance for a RS has dropped massively and im only 19 with 2 years nc. so maybe try doing some insurance quotes putting your age a year up and see how it comes out. cause if you want an RS ultimately it would a piss take a year down the line to find insurance is ok but you have no money. the situation im in atm haha

 

[Thrill]

When Im 19 i'll have only 1 years no claims, not 2. in september 2014 an RS would be affordable

 

[ParisPeach]

I am 19 with an rs and with 1 claim so no bonus for me .

 

[Toby.]

thrill see if you can get your family on admiral multi car, saved be a shed load. and paris thats just unfair hahah

 

[Martin_172]

Seriously? ?

yeah sure would, 190lb/ft of torque against the 172s 145lb/ft had a good shove to it! 172s would just crawl past! but if you caught them in the wrong gear you would pull on them until they wound up lol

Did the dcis have leaky sunroofs? Dont want one with a leaky sunroof!

my electric one was fine, to be hhonest if you take the sunroof off, clean the seal and drain holes etc they will be fine

 

[Thrill]

yeah sure would, 190lb/ft of torque against the 172s 145lb/ft had a good shove to it! 172s would just crawl past! but if you caught them in the wrong gear you would pull on them until they wound up lol


my electric one was fine, to be hhonest if you take the sunroof off, clean the seal and drain holes etc they will be fine

Mine on my 16v is fine but someones sealed it round outside with silicone. It's nice and clean though and doesn't even rattle anymore!

thrill see if you can get your family on admiral multi car, saved be a shed load. and paris thats just unfair hahah

We only have 2 cars at our house, ones mine. Is it still eligible?

 

[tomp2000]

Take a look at Wests Renault dCi 80. One of the best dCi's out there.

Cheers

My DCI 80 was an awsome car, in answer to the OP I would say yes it is a worthy upgrade from a 1.2 to a DCI 100, rather than a side step

 

[iOllieSM]

When Im 19 i'll have only 1 years no claims, not 2. in september 2014 an RS would be affordable

Try elephant.co.uk.
I'm 19 with 0 NCB, 1 claim against me and have been driving for nearly 2 years. I'm paying £1800 for the year on a 172. Worth shopping around!

 

[Toby.]

ive been quoted 800 for a sport but just havent got the money to make the change

 

[Thrill]

The big question, DCI 65, 80 or 100? I would probably get it mapped anyway, wouldn't modify it though.

 

[tomp2000]

The big question, DCI 65, 80 or 100? I would probably get it mapped anyway, wouldn't modify it though.

Personally I would say the 80 is the best. £20 per year road tax and 65mpg+ (i had 90mpg on a long run!)

Never driven a 100 so wouldn't know how much more powerful it felt.

On a side note, my current fiesta 1.6 TDCI which is 90hp feels a lot quicker than the dci80 clio although not quite as good on fuel.

 

[Thrill]

Would a dci 80 reach 100hp remapped? Not sure if its best to go for dci 100 and not map it or get a dci 80 and map it.

 

[Martin_172]

dci 80 usually map to about 110hp, and 100's usually map to about 130
EDIT: around town the 80's feel quicker as the smaller turbo has less lag, infact theres hardly any lag, where 100's have more lag but a bigger punch high up the revs

 

[Thrill]

dci 80 usually map to about 110hp, and 100's usually map to about 130
EDIT: around town the 80's feel quicker as the smaller turbo has less lag, infact theres hardly any lag, where 100's have more lag but a bigger punch high up the revs

Not sure what to do now, I do a lot of around town driving but then I do a fair bit of motorway. DCI 80 to 110 sounds brilliant, wheres best to get mapped? RS Tuning? 'Superchips'?

 

[jaguar9]

The DCI 100 don't really suffer from any lag as they have a variable vane turbo so you get full torque through the rev range.

 

[Thrill]

The DCI 100 don't really suffer from any lag as they have a variable vane turbo so you get full torque through the rev range.

They're quite hard to find, but I wouldn't mind a DCI 100 in Black. Be just like my 1.2 but a bit sturdier, bit quicker and nicer to do long journeys in, plus cheaper. Why did I get a 1.2 in the first place! Especially if they can be mapped to 130bhp.

 

[Martin_172]

The DCI 100 don't really suffer from any lag as they have a variable vane turbo so you get full torque through the rev range.

yes they do, they don't really start going till 2000rpm and there is a good bit of turbo lag when you give it throttle

 

[jaguar9]

But no more lag than the DCI 80, the've got some good examples of the graphs of different before and after mapped dci on this thread... http://www.cliodci.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=710

 

[Thrill]

Didnt Martin write that topic haha!

 

[StephenJ]

What are the maintenance costs of Clio DCIs like? Expensive if things go tits up?

 

[Martin_172]

But no more lag than the DCI 80, the've got some good examples of the graphs of different before and after mapped dci on this thread... http://www.cliodci.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=710

there is a load more lag on a dci100 over a dci80, I owned a 100 and a 65 with the 80 bits on it!

Didnt Martin write that topic haha!

I did yes lol

 

[steve94]

I had a 1.2 16v and now have a clio dci 106 and it can't be compared to the 1.2 and totally worth it a massive amount of gain in my opinion. I'm 19 and my insurance is exactly the same price for the diesel as it would be to a 197, I do a lot of miles and it's a excellent everyday car, although will be getting a rs or mx5 to accompany it pretty soon

 

[steve94]

+unplug the air flow sensor thing and lag is no more

 

[Martin_172]

unplugging the maf sensor doesn't remove the lag it just brings the turbo in harder when it comes in! - smokey! my dci 106 was rapid with the maf unplugged lol