1.6 16v engine

[Rob_Willow]

Would it be relatively simple to install a 1.6 16v dynamique engine into my 1.2 16v dynamique, and would i be able to use current electrics, gearbox etc?

thoughts appreciated, Rob

 

[edde]

Nope its a fair bit of work best drop a 172 engine box etc in instead for the cost.

 

[Friction]

yip, easier and probably cheaper to drop a 172 in at matts prices!

 

[Martin_172]

i cant see how it could be cheaper to drop in a 2.0 over a 1.6 considering a 2.0 costs more to buy and you need to upgrade the brakes and possibly suspension too

 

[Caramel]

in the long run its cheaper

 

[Friction]

i cant see how it could be cheaper to drop in a 2.0 over a 1.6 considering a 2.0 costs more to buy and you need to upgrade the brakes and possibly suspension too

you'd need to change the suspension over to fit the engine though. I'd personally also want the brakes (im assuming their bigger on the 172 than 1.6 16v).

The whole 172 conversion kit only costs £1500 including fuel pump, etc and ancillaries. Much better conversion imho.

 

[edde]

Yep 172 brakes are bigger 280mm vs 259mm on the none RS cars.
The parts are only £1.5k + vat from matt since that includes everything suspension brakes gearbox ecu engine etc there no reason to play about with a 1.6 since you'd ned to upgrade the gearbox ecu etc anyway.

 

[theduck]

how much would fitting be that kit?

 

[edde]

how much would fitting be that kit?

About £1.5k depends though Ktec wanted a develmoent car to learn how to do it along with some other tunners so they were asking £500 or so.
If you know what your doing and have the tools you can do it in about 20hrs

 

[theduck]

£1500 to have it fitted :O

 

[Martin_172]

yep in the long run the 2.0 is the better engine to go with but the 1.2 16v uses the same brakes and suspension as the 1.6 16v (phase 3 1.6 16v's have rear disks though) so with both conversions your going to need to do the gearbox, ecu etc

im not saying id rather go for the 1.6, if your paying for an engine conversion your better going for the 2.0 im just saying i cant see it costing more to do the 1.6

 

[Rob_Willow]

Thanks for the comments people. Reason i ask, is my current clio is basically a 172 replica, based on a 1.2 16v dynmaique. So a bit more power would of been nice, if it was just a case of dropping in a 1600 engine. The 172 conversion in my opinion is not worth it, i might aswel get a real 172, and pay the higher insurance, which would still probably work out cheaper than insuring a modifed 1.2 with 172 engine conversion.

 

[Friction]

maybe not. Some companies will offer you the same quote as a 172. If the bodywork was standard, others would offer a quote for less than a 172 as it'd be seen as less desireable.

Cant see the 1.6 conversion being much cheaper to insure than the 172 conversion anyway though.

 

[Martin_172]

well i got an insurance quote £150 more for a 1.6 16v dynamique than a 1.2 16v Dynamique (£1050 & £1200) because the 1.6 16v isnt seen as a performance engine like the 2.0 is, but its actually quite fast in the clio because its light

 

[Russ.]

prob find that the 1.6 engine transplant will be expensive though with it being a modified car...i hate insurance lol

 

[Martin_172]

yeah i know i was refering to friciton saying that the 1.6 wouldnt be much cheaper to insure than the 2.0 because if i get a quote at 17yr old for a 1.6 16v thats £150 more than a 1.2 they must not think of the 1.6 as a powerfull car

 

[Friction]

yeah i know i was refering to friciton saying that the 1.6 wouldnt be much cheaper to insure than the 2.0 because if i get a quote at 17yr old for a 1.6 16v thats £150 more than a 1.2 they must not think of the 1.6 as a powerfull car

thats not what i meant.

i meant the conversion wouldnt be much cheaper to insure. Its still a conversion - and some insurance companies may not charge much more for the extra 60bhp you'll get from the 2ltr, as it would (had it looked like a 1.2) be less desireable from the theft point of view.

Anyway, 2ltr conversion is far more cost effective and worthwhile, you'd get bored of the 1.6, and for the slight increase in insurance, it'd be more worthwhile for the money. IMO.