172 & 182 bottom end differences

[Daz Clio Cup]

Don't forget this is Renault you are talking about. anything is possible. depends what they had in the spares bin for that week......

my ph2 172 head was cnc'd before i ported it, on the inlet only, think it was only partial.

found the photos of mine before porting:

 

[Matteh]

just to get slightly back on topic, does anyone know the weight of a bottom end?

 

[Clio172-DK]

Can anyone see the difference? I have to heads but don't know witch F4R they are from?

 

[stan*]

Im not following??

certain facts that are taken as read and repeated then passed on and repeated until no-one knows who came up with the fact but it's still accepted. Then you look at it from scratch and realise the only way to be sure is to find out yourself


Stan, I'll get some pics up of the non CNC'd head

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[mikey_172]

ive got a 182 head on my 172 bottom end the only difference was a breather pipe that went in to the 172 head dosent have that for a 182 head

 

[stan*]

come on Danny lad, i want pics!

 

[mini-valver]

Lol!!!

 

[stan*]

 

[mini-valver]

Sitting in your armchair, justa feeling smug, Stan?

 

[stan*]

nah lol

Im genuinly intrested.

 

[mattjk]

just to get slightly back on topic, does anyone know the weight of a bottom end?

How much does the head weigh? As the block weighs around 100kg or so I was told...

 

[mini-valver]

100kg? No chance! I've got an 8v 1600 block on an engine stand in my shed and that weighs feck all. 400cc isn't much of a difference really.....

 

[mattjk]

100kg? No chance! I've got an 8v 1600 block on an engine stand in my shed and that weighs feck all. 400cc isn't much of a difference really.....

Came from fredirica himself, Not that I'd have a clue to be honest!

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=301344&highlight=weight+172/182+engine

edit: Maybe your just strong

 

[mini-valver]

There is no way just the block weighs more than me. Is that with the crank rods and pistons in? Sump+oil pump on?

I'll weigh the 1600 bottom end I have just for comparison sake, lol....

 

[mini-valver]

Complete bottom end bar flywheel, oil pump (bolts onto the crank pulley end and is driven by a cog, no chains etc like the Clio's, probably weighs less than a kilo) and pick up pipe, again that weighs nothing. It does have the engine stand brackets boldted to the bellhousing though so that evens it out.

 

[mattjk]

Are you sure you mummy will be happy with you using her finest scales to weight your engine??!!

 

[mini-valver]

They were in the shed
There is no way that a Clio bottom end is 45kg heavier. Thats a 20 year old cast iron C16SE Vaxhalkl block, are the RS blocks ali?

 

[Daz Clio Cup]

They were in the shed
There is no way that a Clio bottom end is 45kg heavier. Thats a 20 year old cast iron C16SE Vaxhalkl block, are the RS blocks ali?

cast iron iirc

 

[Fred@BTM]

a complete engine is 95-100kg

 

[Matteh]

is that it?

light!

 

[stan*]

 

[Fred@BTM]

box is 38kg ish

 

[mini-valver]

See, f*****s. Bottom end 100kg, PAH!

 

[Matteh]

misread

 

[BenR]

Is this being dropped then?