172 clio information

[PT dave]

hi im going to pick up a 172 in the next week or so how do I tell if its a cup version or not im looking to use it for work and track days as a cheap run around compared to the 300zx twin turbo I have for weekends. it would be more a use and abuse car but I want to sort the suspension brakes and give it alittle more power so advice on all would be great this is my first ever fwd car my first ever non turbo and my first non jap lol so new teritory completely

 

[mark smith87]

The cup version should have a cup badge on the door and the rear seats are just a bench type backrest without any headrests. The dampers are different as well as far as I know.

 

[icebergclio]

if not messed about with it shouldnt have climate control.... hids... abs... or leather. it should have.....bigger cup spoiler and turinis.

 

[Willliams]

Also, no head lamp washer jets. Only available in Blue or Silver

 

[PT dave]

hmm I dont think its a cup its 2001 silver and tatty but I picked it up today and it was a laugh to drive

has only aircon (not for long lol) no hid's no leather and no washer jets for lamps has shite wheels but I will have to check if it has abs theres no light it doesn't say cup on the doors no bigger spoiler either

​can I tell off shell codes?

 

[PT dave]

p.s understeer sucks !!!! but any performance upgrade ideas would be good as would suspension upgrading ideas need to make it handle better

 

[Martin_172]

you sure that's a 172 you bought? lol any pics??

 

[PT dave]

definite 172

 

[Martin_172]

if its a 2001 then it should be a ph2, which means it should have climate control, xenons, headlight washers and half leather.

 

[Kizza9]

A 172 Cup's VIN number will start like - vf1cb1ndf
A normal 172 VIN number will be like - vf1cb1n0f

 

[Dan@SJM]

if its a 2001 then it should be a ph2, which means it should have climate control, xenons, headlight washers and half leather.

It could be a late PH1...

But Cups were 2003(52) on to 2004(04) in my experience.

 

[PT dave]

think mine is last of the phase one

 

[Willliams]

think mine is last of the phase one

Deffinately not a cup then, and should have half leather/alcantara.

 

[martynzs]

Sounds like a great buy...

 

[PT dave]

yeah its got the Renault sport half leathers and yeah tbh £480 isn't that bad it needs hardly any work interior is good paint needs a good polish all it needs is an engine mount and the exhaust fitting correctly it bangs against the floor maybe s**t rubbers thats all it failed mot on will be legal by this afternoon
then to make vast improvements all round

 

[PT dave]

phoned Renault its a 172 but not a cup its a phase 2 as well but it has a phase 1 front end I checked its never been recorded damaged and underneath everything is straight and original no signs of overspray ect im quite confused by it so im going to put all the phase2 bits on it and get it ready for a few track days
any of you guys from Southampton?

 

[Dan@SJM]

It seems an odd step to put a ph1 front end on. It's a lot of work for a start. Does it have a cable throttle?

 

[Rob669]

It's a mongrel!

 

[green]

Is it a Y reg or a 51?

 

[Dan@SJM]

Tbh that doesn't mean a thing. I've seen both 51 and Y plate Ph1's and seen quite a few Y plate ph2's.

 

[PT dave]

Renault said definitely sold as phase 2 it is on a y plate what I presume happened was the panels got damaged and it worked out cheaper to fit a whole phase 1 front end

​aslong as the performance parts off each fit thats all I care about

 

[Mr Plums]

As above

 

[Dan@SJM]

Ph1 panels are more expensive...

 

[Willliams]

All sounds a bit odd eh. What colour is Renault Sport stitching to the front seats, coloured or grey? And as mentioned, is it a cable throttle?

When you say you asked Renault, do you mean Renault UK or your local Rensult dealer? Did you give them the VIN number?


I think we need some pics

 

[loggyboy]

It sounds very much like a phase 1, If youve been told by a dealer its a phase 2 they (or you) could be confused with it being a Mark 2 clio.
Other indication of phase 1 are:
Rear lights: If they are largely red they are phase 1, if they have a big white circle in the midle for indicators and reverse its a Phase 2. Obviously these can be replaced, but another sign.
Dashboard: If it has silver or blue strips its phase 2, if not phase1.

 

[PT dave]

I shall put up pics later but it has kinda smoked back lights and yeah gave them vin number and reg said it was definitely a mk2 phase 2 originally why is the phase 2 front end cheaper?

 

[Renault Wolverhampton]

whats the reg of it?

 

[PT dave]

y reg 2001

 

[loggyboy]

y reg 2001

PM him (not me) your acctual registration and he can confirm the full details.

 

[PT dave]

done

 

[George@RTR_Parts]

Strange one this, to put a ph1 front end on a ph2. You cleared up which you have yet

Doesn't really matter as long as you're happy with it. Enjoy it!

 

[PT dave]

yeah its a mk2 phase 1 now its clean I rather like it

 

[George@RTR_Parts]

Good stuff mate, get some pictures up of it when you get chance

 

[PT dave]

started a project thread