172 cup vs focus st

[demps23]

hi, my mate has just bought a 07 plate focus st and I was wondering how quick is it compared to my 172 cup?

0-60 figures seem pretty close but in reality would I be able to keep up with it?

I know its putting out 220bhp but it must weigh a fair bit compared to the cup!

cheers for any replies!

 

[DrR]

He'd kick your ass.

 

[Gary-Lew]

In a straight drag he would start to pull away after 80-100 mph

 

[Stevie]

race him and see, you'll get all kinds of responses on here.

 

[mullen]

I was pushing my mates one up the bypass a few months back - He was shocked to say the least lol

 

[Vern]

in reality having raced a focus st in a std cup, there was nothing in it this was i the wet and we both wheel span all the way into third but seriously like you say they weigh a ton so 220 + a tank = not rapid nice cars though just over rated a bit i think in the dry side by side there would be nothing in it i woulnt have though however i'v heard over a ton the st pulls slighly harder

 

[daviebroon]

like above... anything from 90mph over... he's kick your ass straight line

but anything up to that, including cornering etc.... you'd be all over him. Not a track day monster the ST... cup is

 

[Fletcher]

Have a play on some bendy B roads, you'll be surprised.

 

[Gary-Lew]

After the ton the st would piss al over a std 172 cup , 182 ,Trophy, but most situations theres always road onditions to take into account so really you would keep up. if its pub talk and a straight road for miles hes quicker simple as!

 

[Gary-Lew]

Sorry about spelling, batts are going on my wireless keyboard

 

[demps23]

cheers! what about a 1/4 mile from a standing start? think I could keep up?

 

[daviebroon]

he'd pip ya

 

[Fletcher]

^^^^Yep..

 

[HartZ]

I raced a black one when i first got my FF.. It beat me but not by far, I think seeing as you have a Cup, it will be close up to about 80-100..

 

[demps23]

yeh i think so 2, spose il just have to give it a go n see!

 

[182joe]

cheers! what about a 1/4 mile from a standing start? think I could keep up?

keep up, yeah, you wouldnt be far behind. dont think you'd beat him though.

 

[mullen]

he'd pip ya

Wouldn't know?

I was pushing my mate as I said - I was behind him couldnt exactly get side by side as it was too dangerous at the time:rasp:

But he definately wasn't going anywere although don't think I'd off got past him either

 

[demps23]

spose ur not gona get much more than 90mph in a 1/4 drag anyway so shouldnt b 2 far behind

 

[Faxo]

Honestly the STs are fast, i know mines a FF 172 but when i drive STs they seem sooooo much faster!

All about road conditions etc tho

 

[Charlieboy]

I've beaten 2 of the f*****s from standing start from traffic lights and through a few turns. Intrestigly enough it was on the same road on the way to work.

 

[mullen]

Plus at the end of the day I suppose its down to the driver

 

[demps23]

very true!

 

[Gaz_]

Honestly the STs are fast, i know mines a FF 172 but when i drive STs they seem sooooo much faster!

All about road conditions etc tho

Turbo diesels 'feel' fast. Torque my friend . I've had a few blatts up to a ton against them (in my old cup) Nip and tuck tbh......

 

[FiXX]

st is quicker but not immensely , ive owned both, remap and bigger intercooler and the st's make serious power for little money

 

[CraigV6]

I went from an eibached 172 ff to a eibached and chipped ST (pushing 270 bhp and loads of torques) and the difference was night and day in a straight line.

Not much in it in the bends, but the Clio was more agile and more fun.

Selling my ST as i've ordered a 197 Cup.
Straight line speed gets ever so tiresome.

ST is a great motorway cruiser, but not really a hot hatch as it doesn't have the right handling excitement.

 

[Oggy997]

I was in an 06 ST the other week, the tit went for an overtake Id of never gone for in my 172FF.

He narrowly made it but it didnt seem to chuck me back in my seat.

Id of said my 172 would have made it easily, but he drove like a r****d.

 

[Ex-User (19928)]

he'd pip ya

Wouldn't know?

I was pushing my mate as I said - I was behind him couldnt exactly get side by side as it was too dangerous at the time:rasp:

But he definately wasn't going anywere although don't think I'd off got past him either

You'd be suprised how much a difference following someone makes aerodynamically.

I would bet if you went on a 3 lane road, and left the middle lane between you, it would be different.

I'm not saying a Focus would trounce a Clio. But it wouldn't lose let's put it that way.

 

[CabinFever]

I love the use of words on this informative forum. The likes of " kick your ass" and " piss all over it" .....Brilliant! I have some experience and im telling you now, standard versus standard any conditions there will be very little in it! No pissing going on. He will have the legs after 90-100 but hardly a slaying. its to close to call, and will no doubt come down to the driver. The ST has obviously more tuning potential, but we talking standard vs standard. Its not a fuc*ing supercar!!

 

[Floodie]

He'd kick your ass.

hehe... tut tut mr rollo your meant to know about cars!

 

[Iridium]

There'd be sweet FA in it. He'd probably have to back off when the 15mpg when driven properly made him cry.

Dan

 

[Markyx2cuk]

there was on when i done my open pit day at Brands and on the straights there wasn't nothin in it!! my cup was edging away but nothin to talk about!! on the bends though the cup is defo quicker!!

 

[MarkCup]

I love the use of words on this informative forum. The likes of " kick your ass" and " piss all over it" .....Brilliant! I have some experience and im telling you now, standard versus standard any conditions there will be very little in it! No pissing going on. He will have the legs after 90-100 but hardly a slaying. its to close to call, and will no doubt come down to the driver. The ST has obviously more tuning potential, but we talking standard vs standard. Its not a fuc*ing supercar!!

Thank you.

 

[FiXX]

There'd be sweet FA in it. He'd probably have to back off when the 15mpg when driven properly made him cry.

Dan

i got better mpg in the st than i did 172 and the 182

 

[_Kenny_]

I had a play with a mate's ST in my EP3. Both standard and nothing much in it tbh

 

[Iridium]

There'd be sweet FA in it. He'd probably have to back off when the 15mpg when driven properly made him cry.

Dan

i got better mpg in the st than i did 172 and the 182

Really? I've always been told they're shocking on fuel?

Dan

 

[FiXX]

i got better mpg in the st than i did 172 and the 182

Really? I've always been told they're shocking on fuel?

Dan

yeah i was always told the same mate but mine was pretty good high 20's -30 mpg average

 

[vts_saxo]

I had a play with an st3(?) bright orange thing, seemed ok till 80 then he clearly had a fair bit more power, that was in the old pink bus 193bhp, which was quicker than any cup i ever came accross.

 

[B16DOE]

get ya cup a remap and decat then give it ago

 

[gaz44]

I have a good play with one and it wasn't until silly speeds that he opened a gap, much to my amusement and his annoyance. In gear, they will take a Cup but off the line there is little difference. The orange ST's are just comedy.

 

[Ian_182]

They are only as quick as CTR's.After the ton they will pull