182 damper bolt spacing difference, why?

[Donut]

Hello all,

I was just wondering is someone can clear something up for me, I've had a little search and can't quite find out what I want.

Basically, I know that standard 182 and 182 cup (or cup packed) clio sport's have different damper bolt spacing and presumably different hubs. Why exactly is this?

What exact differences are there and what do they provide?

My car is a non cup packed 182 which is soon to recieve some sportlines to then potencially either bilstien or H&R coilovers. Would a change to cup hubs give any benefits, different geometry etc?

Cheers people,

Donut.

 

[mark123]

The 182 cup hubs are supposedly "stronger".

I also heard someone say they had slightly different geometry giving a slightly "better" feel.

Can't say I've noticed the difference myself. I wouldn't say it was worth changing the hubs.

 

[Donut]

Mmmmmm.

It still begs the question why Renault would go to the trouble.

What else is different in the front suspension and steering or is it all the same? I'm just slightly bemused by it all.

Cheers,

Donut.

 

[c__w]

It's a slightly wider track and as above slightly different geometry. It does seem a long way to go about it though.

 

[Da]

I believe the hub bolt spacing is different to ensure they aren't inter-changeable with non-cupped hubs.

As stated the cup ones are 'stronger' and as such fitting non-cup ones would probably affect the feel of the car.

 

[Donut]

It's a slightly wider track and as above slightly different geometry. It does seem a long way to go about it though.

Yeah, surely it must be quite an expense to renault to do it in the first place, why?

What else is different? brakes, calipers? wishbones? TRE's?

Laters, Donut.

 

[murcod]

Straight from the horses mouth.

Dedicated to the driving process and to efficiency, the Renault Sport Clio 182 Cup provides a level of grip sufficient to satisfy the most demanding motor sport enthusiasts. With stiffened suspension and lowered ride height, control of body movement is optimal. This development combines existing comfort with a radically sporting character.

The front wheel hub carriers, specific to the Cup, are equipped with larger diameter bearings. The rigorous maintenance of the wheel in its correct plane, when subjected to cornering forces as well as during acceleration and braking, and the traction provided by this strengthened suspension, were the object of special attention.

The steering arm attachment points on the wheel hub carriers have been positioned lower. This adjustment to the suspension favours reactiveness and quicker steering response. Spring rates increased by 20% with matching damper settings for this version provide even more incisive behaviour.

The rear spring rates have been stiffened by 15% and the damper settings increased by 10%.
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Outside, the Renault Sport Clio 182 Cup is distinguished by the fitting of charcoal-coloured alloy wheels.

http://www.renault.com.au/images/pdf/2004-09-16_Clio_182.pdf

 

[Donut]

Ahhhh.

Very good Murcod, grade A snooping there sunshine.

Could be a worthwhile upgrade if i'm getting coilys then.

Laters, Donut.