182 learner driver!!

[chris_p]

I learnt in a clio sport, i was all 'nice, clio sport!!' but it was gutless, must have been a 1.2 sport or something, in my naivity i assumed it was the 2.0 lol

 

[Andy1.2]

Its suicidal because on occasions the instructor may not be fully awake or whatever, they are human like all of us and make mistakes, and a mistake in a car like that could be much more dangerous than that in a slower car! I say nothing above about 130bhp ish for learners (my past instructor has a fabia vrs and its just right to help learners deal with the power etc but not too dangerous)

What planet are you on, at the sort of revs learners are using the VRS will have plenty more poke than a 172etc?

Im on Earth thankyou.

Ill take that point but it still doesnt change the fact that a 182 has 182 bhp and a learner is driving it!! Its too fast and is a stupid idea allowing people to learn in a car that fast.:nono:

 

[Ex-User (19928)]

What planet are you on, at the sort of revs learners are using the VRS will have plenty more poke than a 172etc?

Im on Earth thankyou.

Ill take that point but it still doesnt change the fact that a 182 has 182 bhp and a learner is driving it!! Its too fast and is a stupid idea allowing people to learn in a car that fast.:nono:

I see you drive a 182, but still. A 182 isn't a fast car

It's not as if the learner is going to boot it and fly into a bus stop full of children either, if the thread was "Carrera GT learner driver" I'd be a bit more concerned and tell the hoe to watch herself when walking near roads...

 

[WillC788]

I learnt in a 206 GTi 180 and my lessons were 'only' £19 (AA=£25 I believe?). Very nice car to learn in. There is a Fabia VRS round this way and a Mini Cooper too. Don't see a problem myself.

 

[Gumby]

First car I officially learnt in was an E320 merc muahaha

 

[geordieracer]

What planet are you on, at the sort of revs learners are using the VRS will have plenty more poke than a 172etc?

Im on Earth thankyou.

Ill take that point but it still doesnt change the fact that a 182 has 182 bhp and a learner is driving it!! Its too fast and is a stupid idea allowing people to learn in a car that fast.:nono:

its only too fast if the learner has a lead foot and floors it everywhere. If he drives sensibly its fine, after all 30mph is 30mph whatever your in.

 

[miltage2]

I learnt how to drive in my mums R5 GTT back in the day when I was 17. Started at 16 at the Cardrome in Romford as it is off public roads!! Use to be able to get just over 70 mph down the back straight there!!

I remember taking my dads old escort down there. How you got up to 70mph is beyond me though, I'm sure I could never get over 30 lol!

Cardrome!! Crazy place!!

 

[197ant]

I bet his insurance is a bit steep

 

[Racingblue182]

Can't see anything wrong with it myself, the car only goes as fast as you make it go.

 

[RichRSi]

Lucky.

I learnt in a morris minor with no synchromesh in first and dreadfull un-servo assisted brakes!

 

[Maz]

I dont see what the problem is, it is only a clio after all lol

 

[Alan]

Im on Earth thankyou.

Ill take that point but it still doesnt change the fact that a 182 has 182 bhp and a learner is driving it!! Its too fast and is a stupid idea allowing people to learn in a car that fast.:nono:

I see you drive a 182, but still. A 182 isn't a fast car

It's not as if the learner is going to boot it and fly into a bus stop full of children either, if the thread was "Carrera GT learner driver" I'd be a bit more concerned and tell the hoe to watch herself when walking near roads...

Its not a fast car no but it certainly quicker than a lot of cars that most people learn to drive in..

 

[Iridium]

In some ways, I think having a faster car is safer sometimes, I know this sounds daft and I'm probably phrasing it all wrong, but sometimes having a little power to get you out of trouble (everyone makes mistakes) can be very handy. By trouble, I don't mean out running the police and stuff hehe

Dan

 

[Ads_172]

There's a Cooper S learner car around us that I se quite often.

My 172 is the only car my girlfriend's ever been insured on, passed her test over a year ago and never had anything like an issue with her driving, the car's performance or handling.

 

[brisa4984]

why is it suicidal, as long as the person has self control and the person instructing them doesnt let them get carried away i dont see a problem. Of the driving instructors around me, one uses a Civic Type R, and another uses a ST170

lol funny man.. ok why not learn in a bugati veron then.

 

[geordieracer]

thats an extreme, but why not? the car goes as fast as you make it go. a lot of people are making the presumption that a learner cant control themselves or a car properly.

think about it, i havent seen a car that goes fast by itself just because it can, the car requires the necessary input from the driver in the first place.

It all just sounds like green eyed monster syndrome to me.

 

[SimonV6]

thats an extreme, but why not? the car goes as fast as you make it go. a lot of people are making the presumption that a learner cant control themselves or a car properly.

think about it, i havent seen a car that goes fast by itself just because it can, the car requires the necessary input from the driver in the first place.

It all just sounds like green eyed monster syndrome to me.

I agree to some extent, but it must a be a bit scary for the instructor/pupil when they are a raw beginners with NO clutch/gas control at all?

Once they get used to driving then most cars would be ok?

However I would have thought that with petrol/car/tyres/servicing/general running costs would put any driving instructor off buying such an expensive/fast car?

I guess they are either new or crap driving instructors, and trying to generate work in a very full market?

I wouldn't let my daughters to go such a school


Simon

 

[geordieracer]

I think a lot of driving instructors lease their cars and generally replace them yearly anyway. Plus, think about how much money they must make charging £20+ per hour.

My instructor works 11 hours per day, 6 days a week. At £20 per hour that would be £1320 per week gross.

 

[Ads_172]

They don't make as much as you'd imagine, a lot of costs involved: insurance, car purchase/lease, petrol, etc, etc. Not a badly paid job, but not an instant money-maker.

 

[geordieracer]

I think a lot of driving instructors lease their cars and generally replace them yearly anyway. Plus, think about how much money they must make charging £20+ per hour.

My instructor works 11 hours per day, 6 days a week. At £20 per hour that would be £1320 per week gross.

They don't make as much as you'd imagine, a lot of costs involved: insurance, car purchase/lease, petrol, etc, etc. Not a badly paid job, but not an instant money-maker.

Agreed, but more than enough to run a decent car.