182 has had its day imo. They look dated next to each other, and feel about 20yrs old in comparison Also there is a reasonable difference in price, so depends on budget..........
Both great cars for different reasons imo.
You're like a pale, very small version of a lad called Warren.Exactly.
For me, the 182 is way more fun.
It feels like a small car with a big engine. The 197 lacks this feeling... and is worse off for it.
IMO.
hey people
im really looking into getting a white 197 cup or full fat, or do i just stay with my 182?? im really in 2 minds are the 197's worth the money???
Utter shite. The opinion of people that have looked at buying one and not, is just as valid. What you're basically saying is only listen to the positive comments. FFS.Ignore opinions of people unless they own a 197.
Utter s**te. The opinion of people that have looked at buying one and not, is just as valid. What you're basically saying is only listen to the positive comments. FFS.
Utter s**te. The opinion of people that have looked at buying one and not, is just as valid. What you're basically saying is only listen to the positive comments. FFS.
Whichever you prefer driving tbh. The 182's more fun, the 197 the better all rounder. No idea why anyone would pick a 197 over an r26.
How is that utter sh*te? You can't honestly think you can judge a car with a 10-20 minute test drive? You have to live with a car day to day to really appreciate it! My car with 9k on, is a completely different animal to the demo i drove with just 350miles on it!
I have come from a 172 Cup, and i can honestly say i'd never go back to a Ph2 Clio ever again! The 197 look's better ( let's face facts, it just does! ) Its moved the game on in terms of build quality. It stops and handles better, and it's as capable as a 182 when you press the loud pedal ( despite some very naive views on here )
It's always going to cause friction this subject, because let's face it 197 are the minority, and 1*2 owners are always going to give the new models a hard time. It will be the same with the 200, and with the megane 250 and so on, and so on. Renaultsport/Cliosport just doesn't like change, so i suggest we all go out and buy DC2/5's, Evo's, or like just so we can fit in?
I think he does have a point though - if I had based my opinion on one test drive it wouldn't be so good. You need to live with it a while to appreciate its brilliance.
Given the chance to buy again with fresh eyes I would get a 197 or 200.
...or let me take you out in mine, right Russ??
No one that owns a car is going to come on here and say it's not good. No one. Ergo anyone that owns one will say it's the better car. As I said in my original post, 197's the better all rounder, 182's more fun. IMO.
I've driven plenty of 197's, and I'm getting a 200 for a day as soon as the cars available. It's not the car for me, so I'm hardly going to go and buy a car that I don't enjoy because an 'expert unbiased owner' on CS tells me I'll enjoy it after 9k miles!
I partially agree with Vee owners that say you have to live with it to get it, it's a mid engined V6 FFS. The 197 is a fwd hatchback, if it takes that long to 'get' there's something wrong IMO.
Good job it's a big car, doubt the chip on your shoulder would fit in mine
I have come from a 172 Cup, and i can honestly say i'd never go back to a Ph2 Clio ever again! The 197 look's better ( let's face facts, it just does! ) ?
I've owned both...197 every time, point to point the 197 is the quicker more capable car.